UPDATED 25th JULY 2014
This saga goes on and on
I have a suggestion for everyone who reads this blog,everyone who has been affected by Michael Jolly and Trent Jolly,everyone who has worked for him and everyone who has previous or current outstanding issues with Jolly ,Vollay etc
Write to ASIC and add to the growing list of people who have contacted them over the years The more people that contact them , the more chance that they will do something about it before Jolly disappears from the country with all his stashed money and retires to the Sth of France This guy needs to be made accountable and people power will do the job so start today and write to the Misconduct and Breach reporting team and tell them everything and maybe we will get the result we all want
Michael Jolly before the courts
If you are one of the unfortunate victims of the unconscionable and unscrupulous behavior of Montage Group , Michael Jolly ,Jill Jolly and Trent Jolly then please add your comment and details to this blog
Montage Group Pty Ltd has now been wound up owing $$$millions
They have continued to run Vollay Systems and Vollay Contract and now Shade Systems in the same manner by taking deposits from customers and not delivering the goods in a timely manner
6 to 8 weeks is acceptable
Anything longer than this is not
Some customers still waiting for action after 3 years!!! And they are unlikely to get anything
The depth of this matter can only be achieved if you make it known to others .While the Administrators had some idea of the issues and have contacted some creditors , there are still many companies and customers who have been left high and dry after paying over thousands of dollars as deposits. In many cases I believe that this money has been taken while the company knew of its insolvency issues so therefore they could in breach of Section 36 of the Australian Consumer Law which has financial and custodial penalties
It is important that all these issues are bought to light so as to prevent these companies from continuing operating which is doubtful under the circumstances
If responding to this post please include contact details so we can speak more about this
Thank you
Hi Nigel
ReplyDeleteI am a previous customer who had to take legal action to get my deposit back. I am happy to discuss. Feel free to contact me at gerry@lifetime.net.au.
I to have been having a lot of problems with this company. I paid a substantial deposit last year and continue to get nothing from them except excuses. Without doubt the most unpleasant experience i have ever had with any company in my time on this planet. I have had many discussions with this organisation, particularly Michael Jolly, and i can say with no fear of contradiction that they have never done anything they said they would. I would warn anyone possible to have nothing to do with them.
ReplyDeleteI have been in contact with Jolly he is a crook, he owes me money
ReplyDeletehe takes deposits with no intention to supply goods he has taken many hundreds of Thousands of Dollars from hard working people and not supplied them with anything
he will get his comeuppance one day
I have proof that Michael Jolly has been putting money from the montage account into hidden bank accouts so to avaid paying creditors
ReplyDeletewhe not ring me 0418726150
and i will tell you all about the little scum bag
SO SIMPLE - CHECK THE REGULATIONS & KNOW YOUR RIGHTS
ReplyDeleteBefore dealing with Montage Group Pty. Ltd. (Vollay Contracts Pty Ltd) carefully check the regulations with NSW Dept. of Fair Trading.
Ask Michael Jolly of Montage Group if his company is licenced for domestic work.
Be sure to obtain the licence No. and check its validity with NSW Dept. of Fair Trading. Do not proceed without obtaining a valid licence No.
For domestic shutters, louvre roof installations or similar, it is illegal to demand an initial deposit greater than 10%. Progress payments may be legally requested.
Check with NSW Dept. of Fair Trading.
For any domestic installation where total cost is $1,000 or more, installers must have a basic builder’s licence. Be sure to ask for the licence No. and check its validity with Fair Trading. If there is no valid licence, the warranty not be valid. Check with NSW Dept. of Fair Trading.
For any domestic installation where total cost is $12,000 or more, installers must have appropriate builder’s licence. Be sure to ask for the licence No. and check its validity with Fair Trading. If there is no valid licence, there is no valid warranty.
Where the total cost of the installation is $12,000 or more, a ‘Home Owners Warranty Insurance Certificate’ must be issued to the home owner. A Home Owners Warranty Insurance Certificate cannot be issued if the installer does not hold the appropriate licence. Do not proceed if there is no licence and no Home Owners Warranty Insurance Certificate. Check with NSW Dept. of Fair Trading
If you are given no Home Warranty Insurance, and if the installers are unlicenced, you may find yourself in a very difficult position.
Check with NSW Dept. of Fair Trading.
If there are excessive delays, report the matter to NSW Dept. of Fair Trading.
If you demand the return of your deposit and encounter any resistance or delay, report the matter promptly to NSW Dept. of Fair Trading.
Do not allow installers to commence work till you have checked that they are properly licenced. Check that the installer is the holder of the licence No. quoted by Montage Group (Vollay). If there are any difficulties, report straight to Fair Trading.
Make sure that you have appropriate development approval for any installation.
Montage Group, Vollay Contract and Michael Jolly have been spending some time in the courts over the last few weeks and only this week had the locks changed at their premises in Seven Hills
ReplyDeleteHe managed to come up with the money to keep the wolves at bay a little longer Either he had money in a secret account(likely) OR probably paid the money with a customers deposit he recieved for new work
I still can't believe that people pay deposits without checking on the credibility of companies like this
Either this money is gone for good or you MAY get your goods in 6 months-12 months
On a cheering note i heard tonight that one of michaels creditors dragged him out of his shop and gave him a bit of a hiding a few days ago. Not that i condon violence of course but it did cheer me up to hear it!!!!
ReplyDeleteI spent some time with my lawyer last week and he said while there is virtually nothing i can do against the montage/vollay company while they are under a "Deed of Company Arrangement" there is opportunity to have a tilt at michael personnaly as a director although it would likely be a reasonably expensive exercise. Apparently michael and his family have been considered crooks by many in the industry for many years. I am surprised that there is not some mechanism to put the bastards out of business.
I too have had many unfortunate dealings with Michael,Jill and Trent JOLLY. I have lost in excess of $150k through failed deliveries, broken promises and the normal Jolly excuses. In particular there V7000 opening and closing roof is a total nightmare , with no testings available and it leaks like a sieve. Michael JOLLY is not a man of his word and honors no warranties , despite offering ten years. I wouldn't trust him if he was the last man standing.
ReplyDeleteMichael Jolly. Where do I start. Any body who trust this guy, his wife , son or anybody associated with this family , have rocks in their head. He even used his wifes inheritance money from her dad to try and buy his way out of trouble a couple of years ago. He transfers all assets into his son,daughters, wifes,fathers names so he avoids getting trapped. He takes deposits knowing the he can't deliver. He has traded whilst effectively being insolvent. What is wrong with the law in Australia. Dirt bags like this should not be allowed to trade. I would love a dollar for every person he has crossed. I would be a millionare. He even shit on his rep, Brent PARKES. He has had issues with nearly every staff memeber who works for him and most contractors. He is the master of bullshit, promising the earth and fails to deliver. Sure you will get some of your order with no manifest, things missing , every excuse under the sun and than some. One day the system will catch up with him. Do youself a favour if you are reading this, don't trust or deal with Michael JOLLY. You have been warned. I have been burnt big time. almost bank rupted by failure to deliver. I have had to return deposits to clients and than provide alternative systems to satisfy clients wjhere Jobs had been started , but gear missing. It has cost me a fortune, not to mention my marraige. Yes Michael JOLLY was the major cause of my marraige breakup as my wife couldn't handle all the lies and customers repeatedly phoning complaining about gear that had not arrived. I hope he burns in hell...........
ReplyDeleteHe's on the move, already moved out of one unit of three he occupies at Seven Hills. One Tenant in the complex had a peak through the roller door noting a lot stock got shifted very quickly and its full as.
ReplyDeleteHaha, As a creditor I have just recieved a letter in the mail today from the Administrators Dean-Willcocks Shepard.
ReplyDeleteIt would appear Michael Jolly is in a dire disposition, having not met his payment arrangement for the months of October and November, add to this this he most likely wont make this months payment either, a meeting with the Administrators is to held for all creditors set for Thursday 3 January 2013 at Level 2 32 Martin Place Sydney at 10.00am. I urge all creditors to be present and vote on the proxy form to Terminate the Deed and wind up the company. Also to voice an opinion that this man NOT continue to Trade under the name of Volley, which would appear how he has managed to avoid any responsibilities over from Montage. Please turn up in force to wipe this parasite from ever trading again.
this information needs to be forwarded to everyone you know who is owed money by this grub and to all unsuspecting customers who have paid deposits and still waiting for their goods
DeleteGood work for keeping everyone up to date There are lots of eyes and ears in the complex and he cant hide from anyone anymore
Jolly (trading as Montage or Vollay) has insufficient cashflow to run his business efficiently. He is unable maintain adequate stock for timely delivery of orders
ReplyDeleteHe has insufficient production staff to fabricate the goods that he takes orders and deposits for. He has no forward planning, and no idea of how to run a business.
Suppliers are kept on a ‘drip-feed’ or demand payment before delivery. Jobs are typically at least 6 to 8 months behind schedule, because he has no materials, has no money to pay for them, and has insufficient production capacity.
Incoming deposits are used to keep suppliers on a ‘drip feed’, for weekly payroll, general expenses and to fund production and delivery of orders for which deposits were taken months ago and the customers are now threatening action.
Jolly keeps customer phone numbers on his mobile phone so that he can avoid answering complainers. If you’re an angry customer and you ring the office, you will be put on hold while the receptionist tells Jolly that you have phoned and asks him if he wants to talk to you. He may talk to the angry customer and make excuses, or he will tell the receptionist to say that he is “in a meeting”, “out on site”, “in New Zealand” or whatever. He may promise to return your call, but don’t hold your breath. I’ve been in his office, I’ve seen it happen. He thinks it’s funny.
Jolly, (Montage, Vollay) have been reported to the ACCC and to ASIC, but they have chosen to do nothing and let this operation continue. The Dept. of Fair Trading has fined him numerous times and given him warnings, but a $5,500 fine means nothing to someone who has built debts of about $4M. Fair Trading displays Public Warnings about others, but does not see fit to issue a warning about Jolly/Montage/Vollay. They just sit back and let the public walk into the trap.
DON’T BE FOOLED BY JOLLY’S BIG TALK
DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH MICHAEL JOLLY/MONTAGE/VOLLAY
To anyone owed money by this grub, please be aware that after talking to the Administrator, Dean - Willcocks Shepard, contact person Cameron phone 02 9234 0400, I was informed that Michael Jolly / Montage Group has to pay $30K on or before 20th January 2013. Should he fail to do this, the Administrator will call for a creditors meeting and I urge every Creditor to attend this meeting either in person or by telephone link up (conference number 02 9234 0400). If there is sufficient creditors who vote to wind up this grub, ie 10 people, the administrator will be obligated to liquidate the company. So your vote is very important. I also ask that you request the administrator to make a full report to the ACCC in regards to the the actions by the Jolly family as they are unfit to hold a Directorship of any Company.
ReplyDeleteUnfit to hold directorship?They are simply criminals riding on honest people back.I would like to know how mny companies and people actually this lying family of Jolly sent broke.What the joke.In half of the world they simply will be eliminited from this world, in other countries government agencies will take them to task.In Australia?I wouldnt be suprised if ACCC send them good wishes for their birthdays.
ReplyDeleteI think is time to get united and put pressure on administrators to liquidate Montage.There is a lot of creditors,let vote Jollys into their commercial grave.
Anyone who sill think that gets something from Montage should get theirs head checked.From my experience all i got is lies,promises,lies and moreempty promises.
Get sign petition to ACCC to get him for all his actions.For trading while insolvent.We cannot get him to walk away.
If everyone call their local federal member about it ACCC will have no choice but start investigation.
Well that was well said, I did manage to understand most parts of what you were saying.
DeleteHowever, Jolly doesn't give a fuck about Montage. That company no longer is an interest to him, it's basically dead in the water. Vollay is where it counts, and he shifts money around within that name, having two entities (Contract) and (Systems)
For my mind, he's like the Al Capone of Sydney, laundering money where he needs to. I will bet anything that he comes up the 30K to keep trading.
We blown chance to sent him into liquiditation on 3 January.
ReplyDeleteLets do something about him now.
He must be laughing.180 plus creditors, some big companies,banks,ATO and he managig to be on top of us.
Administrators shouldnt agree to accepting money after he fail to pay.
Administrator should call meeting and leave that to creditors.
Creditors wake up !
ReplyDeleteThere's nothing ACCC can do to pin this cold blooded garbage Jolly and family and companies unless you all wakeup and put words to action!
I almost got burnt 2 years ago(near 1M) ,been in court with jolly and his company.Almost got this bastard,Again it's because of the Australian law that he got away with it temporarily,I say temporarily as I have all the paperwork to pin this bastard down! It's all about money to get across this stage!
It's a pity and brutal that law is all about money and lies and not about honesty and true facts!
I say lies because that judge in the supreme court bought it though he knows and had spelled it out along the hearing numerous time! And yet it's because it's a procedure thing!
My solicitor and barrister had expectation of 90% chances base from my emails and paperworks that is why I gave it a go,Again ,it's all about procedure!
The drama and impact going thru broken families( psychologically,emotionally,financially) because of Michael Jolly and his garbage family ,It's something unbearable specially when you were cheated right straight at your face!
What's wrong with being honest in doing business?
Is that something to be taken advantage of ?
I just hope and pray you all get your senses!
For those suppliers that are still supplying,you all had been burnt and had went to court as well ,why still supplying? Why not support this cause and help put an end ? Are you really short of business or ?
I do personally know these aluminum suppliers and it's because they just work for big time suppliers in China that they only care for performance and this money owed are only small amounts that they can cover up loses.
It's really a SHAME that they don't care a bit about whats happening!
Creditors,Its all left at your discretion now .Its either you all still believing that Jolly can pull it through with his magic wand and mouth or ?????
To all those people with issues regarding deposits and non delivery of goods please read below and speak to you lawyer
ReplyDeleteEmbezzlement is the act of dishonestly withholding assets for the purpose of conversion (theft) of such assets by one or more individuals to whom such assets have been entrusted, to be held and/or used for other purposes
More often than not, embezzlement is performed in a manner that is premeditated, systematic and/or methodical, with the explicit intent to conceal the activities from other individuals, usually because it is being done (by the perpetrator) without the other individuals' knowledge or consent. Often it involves the trusted individual embezzling only a small proportion or fraction of the total of the funds or resources he/she receives or controls; in an attempt to minimize the risk of the detection of the misallocation of the funds or resources. When successful, embezzlements continue for years (or even decades) without detection. It is often only when a relatively large proportion of the funds are needed at one time; or they are called upon for another use; or, when a major institutional reorganization (the closing or moving of a plant or business office, or a merger/acquisition of a firm) requires the complete and independent accounting of all real and liquid assets; prior to, or concurrent with, the reorganization, that the victims realize the funds, savings, assets or other resources, are missing and that they have been duped by the embezzler
Please read the following extract and speak to your lawyer if you are having issues regading deposits and non delivery of goods
ReplyDeleteEmbezzlement is the act of dishonestly withholding assets for the purpose of conversion (theft) of such assets by one or more individuals to whom such assets have been entrusted, to be held and/or used for other purposes
More often than not, embezzlement is performed in a manner that is premeditated, systematic and/or methodical, with the explicit intent to conceal the activities from other individuals, usually because it is being done (by the perpetrator) without the other individuals' knowledge or consent. Often it involves the trusted individual embezzling only a small proportion or fraction of the total of the funds or resources he/she receives or controls; in an attempt to minimize the risk of the detection of the misallocation of the funds or resources. When successful, embezzlements continue for years (or even decades) without detection. It is often only when a relatively large proportion of the funds are needed at one time; or they are called upon for another use; or, when a major institutional reorganization (the closing or moving of a plant or business office, or a merger/acquisition of a firm) requires the complete and independent accounting of all real and liquid assets; prior to, or concurrent with, the reorganization, that the victims realize the funds, savings, assets or other resources, are missing and that they have been duped by the embezzler
I was ripped off by Jolly over a period of over 2 years. Michael Jolly demanded a payment of about $8,000 so that I would have exclusive rights to sell Vollay products in a particular area of Sydney. I later found that at least 3 others were working in the same area. That's 'exclusive'????
ReplyDeleteI was fabricating and installing shutters and some other Montage Vollay products.
Michael Jolly promised to send me leads, but he failed to do so.
Michael Jolly promised that my business name would be listed on his website which would be 'up' in a few months. The website was not completed for another 18 months and no-one's business was listed except Michael Jolly's Montage, although he posted a photograph of one of my jobs and claimed it was his.
As time progressed, the situation grew steadily worse. About 2 in 3 deliveries of materials was supplied late, was wholly or partly supplied in the wrong colour, was supplied with missing or incorrect components, powder-coating was often of poor quality and had to be reprocessed.
I spent more time waiting for materials than I did working. I could never make a profit.
I gave Jolly a written complaint, detailing my purchase order No.'s and the deficiencies in his supply.
He told me that my complaint was all bullshit, and that no-one else had any problems at all.
I contacted a series of his shutter fabrication/installation customers and found that everyone had the same problems that I was experiencing.
One of Jolly's customers told me several years ago that he believed that Jolly could not supply reliably, because he had no money to pay his suppliers, that Jolly/Montage/Vollay was almost constantly on credit hold. In the light of my experiences, this explanation seemed plausible to me.
I have made extensive, detailed complaints to ASIC, the ACCC and to NSW Dept. of Fair Trading.
The ACCC responded and advised me that they would take no action.
ASIC responded and advised me that they would take no action.
The NSW Dept. of Fair Trading did not even bother to respond.
I suggested to the NSW Dept. of Fair Trading that they post a public warning about Michael Jolly, Jill Jolly and their Montage Group (Vollay Contracts, Vollay Systems). They have posted warnings about relatively insignificant unscrupulous dealers, but they have refused to warn the public about Michael Jolly and Jill Jolly.
Reading the complaints on this site, it intrigues me that the Jolly's are able to keep on taking deposits, but not delivering the goods.
Where is the money going? Is it in his superannuation, a Swiss bank account, or simply squirrelled away somewhere. Why do the ACCC and ASIC refuse to investigate? They are public bodies, paid for by tax payers. Why do they not do the job that they are there to do.
Everyone with a complaint should send it to the ACCC, ASIC and the NSW Dept. of Fair Trading.
Inundate them. Send copies to your local MP's also.
Statements sent to ACCC and ASIC are confidential (they are not public documents which could lead you into legal difficulties).
Please do it. I think only the weight of numbers will win this one.
I see no way of recovering my losses. Jolly with his legal counsel seem to be able to fool the courts repeatedly.
What meeting of creditors with Administrators?
ReplyDeleteHe'll come good with the 30k to keep trading, and then the Administrators are happy. The best source of dirt on him will come from the people in the complex at 7 Hills, or employees past or present. The only way to bring this bastard down is to infultrate him. Espionage is a lovely word, and money talks when its directed to someone willing to carry it out.
I think brighter days for all creditors are not far away :)
Spoke to the Administrators office today who confirmed that Michael Jolly had not paid the $30K due on or before 21st January. It is now up to all creditors to contact the Administrator (details above in earlier entry)ASAP, to request a meeting of creditors to be called and for the winding up of the company to proceed.
ReplyDeleteCreditors should note as one person has pointed out above that Jolly has two other companies: Vollay Contract Pty Ltd and Vollay Systems Pty Ltd. Vollay Contract Pty Ltd was established on 12 November 2008 and Vollay Systems Pty Ltd was established on 2 April 2012 - on the same day the Administrator notified ASIC that the creditors' meeting had decided to set up a Deed of Company Arrangement for Montage Group Pty Ltd (very suspicious). Creditors should be asking the Administrators to investigate whether money has been funneled out of Montage into these other companies.
ReplyDeleteAccording to my calcs, Jolly has handed over $45K to the administrators if the payment schedule in the deed has been followed up until the end of September. The funds paid are to be firstly applied to the administrator's costs which are estimated at a total of $88K. The administrator won't be happy if his costs are not met and I think that Jolly could expect a recommendation from the administrator that ASIC go him personally with an insolvent trading claim if he does not come up with the rest.
ReplyDeleteBeen speaking with my Lawyer, who says Jolly has signed up to a major contract in Asia to supply louvres on a multi-million dollar contract. He seems to think he is recieving money from this consortium, but it isn't been funnelled through his business bank accounts, hence the Administrators would not even know about it. Even though this consortium is Asian, the parent group company is Australian. (Makes for easy transactions without any currency exchanges) The company is listed on the ASX as a top 1000 company, with projects worldwide including Dubai where big building projects are at an all time high.
ReplyDeleteSC Global Developments
DeleteSculptura Ardmore (Singapore) Just Google the name
So they had a creditors' meeting today to rubber stamp amendment of the Deed to allow Jolly to pay by 20 Jan the $30K he owed for October, November and December. Someone advised above that the Administrator had told him that Jolly had not paid by 21 Jan. Presumably he has paid and he has another $10K to pay by 31 Jan.
ReplyDeleteJolly puts in false claims and tells lies to his insurance company Elders. Elders paid without asking any questions. Elders paid Montage $69,923.42
ReplyDeleteInsurance fraud is a police matter and Elders would be keen to recover a payout made against a false claim. Alert Elders and they will call in the police if appropriate.
ReplyDeleteJolly has many reasons to feel confident - ASIC and ACCC decline to take action, Fair Trading gives him an occasional minor fine and the legal system is ineffectual.
Where do the customer deposits go? He has few staff to pay, he apparently does not reliably pay his creditors, so where does the money go?
This is so wrong yet no one does anything about it. Michael Jolly puts in an insurance claim, the insurance company - Elders - just pay him out, and he trades a little longer, then does it again etc. Mean while insurance companies raise their premiums and we pay whilst Michael Jolly rips off someone else. The system stinks.
ReplyDeleteThis is not the only false insurance claim.
DeleteI know of two other false claims.
DeleteJust waiting to see what comes of the 69k claim, before I inform Elders of the two others I'm aware of.
Hey guys - I am still disgusted that this slimeball is continuing his lies and claims - knowing he probably reads this blog laughing - thinking it is all a big joke - dont worry I believe in Karma - I just hope this blog continues so I can hear about his downfall - good people like me do not deserve to deal with spineless arses like this - revenge is a dish that is slow cooking but will be sweet
ReplyDeleteWe need more information on Jolly
ReplyDeleteIf you have anything put it on here and something will be done about it
INSURANCE FRAUD Contact Elders and tell them what you know or what you read on here Then they will do something This is a jailable offence
FAIR TRADING If you have a gripe then contact them They know all about him and will act on every complaint He cant continue to pay fines and he wont comply
BUILDING COMPANIES If you speak to builders and his name is mentioned just give them this blogsite address They can then make their choice
If there are any people with inside information then speak up
We need to keep this going until he is no longer allowed to "run" a business like he has been for years
This blog is your opportunity to express your thoughts and knowledge so others can be made aware.I am sure that every new customer who reads this will not do business with them One person has already acted on this site and cancelled their order and I am sure there are more that have smelt a rat I found a customer the other day who now knows all about him and has taken his business elsewhere
Keep up the good work and we will prevail
Any of Michael Jolly's Montage creditors who were involved in last years proceedings with Jolly's administrators and is dissatisfied with the outcome can re-initiate the process with another administrator - ideally one who will investigate more thoroughly and understand what Jolly is really doing. A new administrator would not be constrained by any aspect of the previous administrator's actions. Any creditor contemplating the initiation of independent action would probably need to be owed at least $100K to make it worthwhile. If anyone is interested in considering such action, I will obtain the contact details of an administrator who is well accustomed to this type of situation.
ReplyDeleteThis company "montage" and the three members of the Jolly family are complete thieves. they took my deposit 4 years ago and to this date have not delivered anything other than continual bull shit.
ReplyDeleteMaybe someone can enlighten me on this subject
ReplyDeleteHow the hell can Jolly instigate bankruptcy proceedings against another person while his company is in administration ?
It smacks of double standards but we all know that Jolly has none of the morals that normal people have
He also gloats that he never comes off second best
We all need to ensure that he does and this can only come about by anyone with ANY information on him to make it public
Report any instances to the right people and this includes Elders who I am sure will investigate all claims made by Montage/Vollay
Clause 13(2) of the Deed of Company Arrangement states that:
ReplyDeleteThe Director covenants to the Administrator to use best endeavours to complete all projects where a deposit had been paid on or before 23 February 2012.
Clause 17 gives the Administrator the right to terminate the Deed and wind the company up if it fails to comply with the Deed.
I would like to make a few points about this:
Firstly, people who had paid a deposit before 23/2/12 and have received nothing should be making this known to the Administrator and demanding that the company be wound up for the Director's failure to comply with the Deed.
Secondly, the taking of a deposit before a service is provided should correctly be accounted for as a liability - not a sale. Sales revenue should not be recorded until the service has been provided. Therefore, all customers who had paid deposits and not received a service should have been regarded as creditors by the Administrator. They should have been invited to creditors' meetings and have been entitled to vote on whether the company should have been wound up. It seems from the special provisions in the Deed about customer deposits that these people have not been regarded as creditors. I think this is a serious error by the Administrator. People affected should also raise this issue with the Administrator.
type into google vollay shutters and see what turns up
ReplyDeleteNow you will know where the money is going.
Here is a list of domains Jolly has bought to advertise on the net
Jolly-shutters.net
Jollyfamily.com
louvres-vollay.com
opening-roof-by-vollay.com.au
micheal-jolly-montage.com.au
micheal-jolly.com.au
motorised-shutters.com
montage-louvers.com
to name a few
What a joke this piece of work is
desperate times call for desperate measures
We have notified the administrator of monies paid to Montage. They basically do not recognise us as creditors as they can not find any record at the time. They sent out a couple of notices to us for a while and now they have stopped.
ReplyDeleteI have been told of a large project at melbourns airport that Jolly is involved in I have been told Vertilux in Melbourne have paid Jolly a large amount of money as a deposit but have got nothing in return
ReplyDeletenow the builder is talking about suing Vertilux for non supply of goods if this is true can anyone shed more light on this,and what are Vertilux doing about it were has the deposit gone
if true why have vertilux not taken action in the courts
Oh dear,
DeleteHow did Vertilux get involved with Jolly?
I think that is incorrect actually. Jolly owes money to a company in Melbourne that subcontracted to him to put the shutters up at Transport Air Services, (Louvreworks in Melbournes south west.) They completed their job, to which Jolly still owes them a considerable amount of money.
The builders are aware of this, and they are equally as frustrated by Jolly's constant delays and lies as to why the Louvres are not operating as they should. The technical side of things I'm not to sure about, just how they operate exactly, but it is quite complex in nature I'm told, and Jolly has lost all support from the Company that designed the system. I also believe one of his staff with the technical ability to sort it out has left the company also. Like I said in an earlier post (The complex at 7 Hills has many pairs of eyes and ears)
All words in this blog do not do justice to what an low life animal he and his family are.
ReplyDeleteThis animal has caused me sleepless nights for years on end with his lies, he has cost me an enormous amount of money in lost deposits, legal fees etc I am truly surprised this animal is still doing business and still alive. truly amazed.
we have been trying to get this company to finish our installation for many years. the stories are always unbelievable. today our lawyer has said that it looks like a creditors meeting is soon and it is prposed that he will be wound up at last.
ReplyDeletejust googled "montage michael jolly" and found this blog. Now i see that our company is not the only one ripped off by these parasites.
ReplyDeletelooks like this aluminium roof industry is full of thugs. we have been burnt off by montage and SBD.
ReplyDeleteHow law function in Australia?
ReplyDeleteMontage took 48k out of 94.6 contract.
Two years later I got brackets installed,all incorect,just hanging by dynabolts,no chem set ,no stainless steel bolts as promised.Out of 8 panels installed 3.
All looks like second hand ,full of scratches and dents.
Montage cannot show engineering certificate to city council satisfaction.
My structural engineer would NOT sign off.Building inspector from council wouldnt pass either.
I couldnt get Montage to do anything proper.No institution wants to act.
NOW MONTAGE DEMAND UNDER SECURITY PAYMENT ACT FULL PAYMENT.
I couldnt do a thing, but proven dishonest, to say most polite way, people got law on their side.
They bloody laughing.
Are we honest people are fouls?
Above is stated that in March we could vote to close this crooked company.
Let have no second thoughts,let vote him into liquidation.
He shouldnt trade.We all know where this family of Jolly belong to.
How to pay them back for miseries they inflicted on many others?
The best idea for all creditors is to wind him up and sue him and his crazy wife personally for embezzlement
ReplyDeleteQuote
"Embezzlement is the act of dishonestly withholding assets for the purpose of conversion (theft) of such assets by one or more individuals to whom such assets have been entrusted, to be held and/or used for other purposes."
If you have paid Jolly money as a deposit for goods and services and he has made no attempt to manufacture and install goods as part of your contract with him then he has taken your money and used it for his own purposes In other words he has stolen your money with no intention of doing anything for you
He will lie till the cows come home but you will get nowhere
Maybe at the creditors meeting we should all band together(this should have been done last year)and do all in our power to get our money back and make sure that he is charged with a criminal offence
Sue him and his dysfunctional family for all they are worth (I know they are worthless but you know what I mean)
And if you are reading this Jolly ,you would have to be the most dispicable excuse for a human being that ever breathed.
You time will come and it is nearer than you think you bloody lowlife thief
This weasel has been doing this sort of thing for many years and apparently getting away with it. Im in New Zealand and he took me for almost $70,000.00 about 8 or 9 years ago. Whatever happens to the little prick will be too good for him. I look forward to following your progress until he gets what he deserves. Probably a bit late now but if i can help. paul@shuttersbydesign.co.nz
ReplyDeletewarning! montage and sbd or what ever their new name maybe are both thieves. Michael,Jill & Trent Jolly and family can not be trusted.
ReplyDeleteOzzie and Rod have very sneakily changed the name of their compny to a very similar name to avoid debts.We were suppliers to both and have lost quite a lot of money.
thank you everyone for your input. we were about to pay our deposit $8k
ReplyDeleteI have told Elders of the fraud and false insurance claim - everyone from the Adnin Staff to the Director - they are doing nothing and once agin, Michael Jolly gets away with ripping people off. The law is a joke - and Michael knows it.
ReplyDeleteThe administrator does not care - he is getting paid.
So to everyone else - Michael Jolly is laughing and there is nothing we can do.
The new website is in the name of Vollay Systems Pty Ltd, established after the Administrator was appointed last year. He is offering residential installations on the new website. Just did a building licence check. Vollay Systems Pty Ltd does not have any sort of building licence. Here we go again.
ReplyDeleteCreditors need to band together and get their own administrator to go in and fix Jolly. My accountant says it can be done, and any new administrator is not constrained by the actions of the previous administrator. A few creditors with enough money owed to make it worthwhile. At least a few hundred thousand all up.
ReplyDeleteAnyone interested?
Looking through the reports on this blog site, it seems that the line of business indicated on Michael and Jill Jolly's website is only a facade for the their core business which is embezzlement.
ReplyDeleteThis is the sort of shit Jolly has on his new website It is so believable it is unbelievable
ReplyDeleteThis is one deperate man telling lie after lie
Dont trust the Jolly Family
"About Vollay
Our Mission is to provide an integrated range of superior products at a realistic and competitive price, whilst being customer focused so that we and our clients can prosper, bring happiness to the consumer and have a positive impact on the environment."
The Jolly family work together at Vollay and are customer focused which allows the clients to prosper, bring happiness to the consumers and have a positive impact on the environment
Michael Jolly from Vollay are specialists when it comes to shutters and louvres. Not only does Michael Jolly have the knowledge but he has been doing business in the industry for over 30 years. So you can rest assured knowing that the advice and recommendations from Michael Jolly and his team at Vollay will always be in the best interest for their customers
The only thing to be acheived by dealing with this company is that you will be out of pocket when he takes your deposit and the cost of your legal fees
Not only does Montage have to wound up but a court injunction needed to stop him trading as Vollay until all creditors are satisfied that he is not allowed to run a business in any shape or form
Michael Jolly Vollay Montage Group websites are copying other legitimate Australian louvre company websites text, and blogging / posting that text / information onto their own sites. Suspect it is all to recreate presence on google, increase ranking etc... http://michael-jolly-vollay.info
ReplyDeleteAustralian Louvre companies beware it has happened to us already, we have been in contact with Trent from Vollay and had it removed. They have a web design firm that is supposably using this "agressive / alternative" marketing technique. Michael Jolly Vollay Montage Group is copying copyright protected material and posting it as their own - illegal.
Thank you for this update
DeleteThere are photos on his website of projects that I installed years ago
Is this because none of his own customers would allow him back on thier property to take photos or "hero shots" as he likes to call them of the "finished" product??
I am flabbergasted that there are NO testimonials on his new website An oversight perhaps?? Not likely.
I have not heard a single positive comment about Jolly or his company in over 9 years since I first became involved with him Needless to say I have not dealt with him for more than 4 years
There is one guy ,Sandy De Luca from Styles and Rails who for whatever reason still works with him but all the rest have taken their business elsewhere
The thing that is hard to understand about Michael Jolly & Jill Jolly is that they hired an engineer to design their products – many of which are attractively styled and appear to be of good quality.
ReplyDeleteThey used Brent Parkes to design an impressive website that created the impression that there was an organization of substance behind the Vollay brand.
A great deal of effort and expense went into this work.
If they had properly organised materials supply, production and installation they would be in a position to take a good share of the market – they could have created a successful business that would make them wealthy.
But instead, Michael & Jill Jolly preside over an organisational SHAMBLES that they have created through their business INCOMPETENCE, their FAILURE to deal honestly with their customers, their creditors and their staff.
So why did they bother to do the groundwork when they are so LACKing in SKILLS, knowledge and experience that they can’t follow through and run the business properly and honestly without creating all this STINK? There is something very WRONG with them.
They are NOT LICENCED for domestic installations, they use unlicensed installers, so their ‘10 Year Warranty’ is useless. They’ve been fined numerous times, but still they continue UNLICENCED.
They grab deposits, but make no effort to deliver on time. When they have FAILED TO DELIVER and their customers want their deposits returned, they get NASTY with the customers, tell them lies, blame their suppliers, frustrate and delay the customers’ efforts to have their money returned. They behave as if the customers are the problem.
Some companies earn a good reputation, they gain repeat business from past customers, referrals from satisfied customers.
Michael Jolly, Jill Jolly get legal action against them, action through Dept. of Fair Trading and blog sites warning people not to deal with them.
And just what is their company called? Montage Group, Vollay, Vollay Systems, Vollay Contracts, Jolly-shutters.net Jollyfamily.com louvres-vollay.com opening-roof-by-vollay.com.au michael-jolly-montage.com.au michael-jolly.com.au motorised-shutters.com montage-louvers.com?
What are they calling themselves this week?
They have shot themselves in the foot with their incompetence and their revolting behavior. Michael Jolly, Jill Jolly, Trent Jolly and their companies have earned themselves a stinking reputation. STUPID, STUPID PEOPLE!
I think you are being too kind
ReplyDeleteIt may look a good product on paper or when designing it but there is NO testing or engineering reports on any of the products
If he needs an installation signed off all he does is send some drawings to an engineer in Brisbane ,tells him some porkies about how it was done and the engineer may then sign it off without even seeing with his own eyes
I have yet to see any "talented" people working for him.People with talent dont get paid $18/hr
Regarding his installers/resellers I personally know of 3 in WA, 3 in QLD ,2 in VIC,3 in NZ and more than 25 in NSW/Sydney who have been burnt by this company over the last 7 years with some of them closing thier businesses as a result of the losses incurred because of thier involvement with Jolly Even today there are some guys fixing up motorised jobs that have never worked properly If a roof systems needs a 20nm motor he will install a 10 or a 5 mn motor because it is cheaper He doesnt care if it burns out in 6 months
If your powder coat comes off your shutters it is because he often sprays extrusions with aerosol paint
Then there are the builders developers public who are out of pocket through failure to deliver the goods Even ex staff are owed money for company expenses because they were asked to pay for goods and services using thier own credit cards and not reembursed.
The guy who helped him get going with the design of the aluminium shutters not only was dudded out of the patent but is still owed over $700K.
It is only a matter of time before Montage is finished for good(hopefully tomorrow) and VOLLAY SYSTEMS and VOLLAY CONTRACT will not last much longer
There is NO way a business can continue to operate the way the JOLLY FAMILY operates.And nor should it
Montage made it claim (baseless)on me under building security payment.I was forced to engage practising structural engineer who stated in report that all shutters Montage installed are not complaing with any standarts and HAVE TO BE PULL DOWN.Soon I could I publish damming engineer report on this site I will.
ReplyDeleteFrame is dangerous and not calculated for wind load.Mounts are 8 mm galvanised dynabolts instead 10 mm stainles.Used dynabolts instead chemset.All wrong.
This guys are a cheat.Is anyone need witness in court against them I put my both hands up.
If this is the job I think it is Voyager ???
DeleteI think you will find the frames and blades do not meet any wind load rating. Most of the blades in this job are aerofoil blades, Do not have screw flutes I know for sure because I worked on this job and helped screw those bloody blades in. I think from memory every 12th blade had a blade with screw flutes, the rest dont. The screws were falling out of the blades as we were loading them on the ute. The blade was recoated from old stock just to use it all up as not many jobs used the fluteless blade.
Glad I got out of that joint when I did. That job was fucked before we started it. I didnt think it all got delivered to site anyway
You need to go to Fair Trading as well as registering a complaint with the Consumer Trader and Tenancy Tribunal Call 1300 135 399
DeleteThis is completely out of order The best thing for you is that he took on this job under the Vollay name He may have taken your deposit as Montage and fitted off a few brackets but I have seen his emails and quote for this job on the Vollay letterhead so you can go for Vollay through the courts to
1. get the job done properly
or 2. get you money back
and 3.get Jolly and Vollay a big fine from Fair Trading
lastly DONT PAY HIM A CENT MORE until this has been resolved If you have a registered dispute he cant make you pay through the Security Payment Act Get hold of the CTTT today and make your claim
Take copies of all his emails ,quotes etc and go into the city and register this week
Good luck
Hello everyone
ReplyDeleteWhilst it is disappointing that we didnt get the result we wanted on Monday I think the writing is on the wall for this prick
The ATO guy did not believe Jollys bullshit answers and has even more ammunition to investigate this parasite There is no place for him to hide now with the ATO after him and he has been outed as the low down scum that he is All his fraud will catch up with him including Customs and Excise and false insurance claims
He has even not paid some of his employees Super for over a year
To the creditors that sided with Jolly and voted to continue the deed , I hope your conscience is clear.The only way to get any money from him is to wind him up and make sure that all assets including those in the Vollay name are taken into account
The Jolly family are the scum of the earth and will get their just desserts
Interesting to hear his Singapore job is turning to mud.
ReplyDeleteCan't make things work with out sourced engineering components, having to resort to chisels and hammers to open up the extrusions.
"That's sheer genius"
40 Levels of this stuff, God hope it don't fall off the building.
Then again it wouldn't be the first time that's happened.
I am not surprised that it is going to shit already and the prototype has not even been made !!!
DeleteIt is impossible to manufacture a product like this if
1.You have no companies to supply aluminium extrusions
2.No company in Sydney will powder coat anything for them
3.No engineering workshop will touch them
4.You only have a small 150m2 factory that is run by muppets
5.You have never made anything like this before but profess to have the most complete range of aluminium louvres in Australia
This job is completely out of Jollys league and with both his only decent staff members having resigned he is left with no brains in the company to do anything
Down hill is the only way for him now
I too have had dealings with Michael Jolly. I contracted him to install a louvre roof in my home a few years back.
ReplyDeleteHe explained he only deals through his installer network but he would deal directly with me if I was to structure the transaction through my business.
I later realised this was simply to enable a 'business to business' transaction allowing him to avoid licencing and other contractual obligations when dealing with the public.
I paid him a 50% deposit of the $25k job.
Once he had the deposit, his empty promises and excuses began. I couldn't reach him by phone and had to visit his Seven Hills premises unannounced. His reception was rude and hostile.
We managed to get the job completed after many many stressful months but required a lot of rectification work by ourselves.
Although our experience was unpleasant to say the least, we seem to have gotten away relatively unscathed.
I have been in business for many years and have always conducted my dealings with honesty and integrity. I have always been able to spot a con man a mile away, but I didn't see this grub coming .......
I always knew if I googled MICHAEL JOLLY's name, I would come across stories like this.
BEWARE - DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH MICHAEL JOLLY, JILL JOLLY, TRENT JOLLY, OR ANY BUSINESSES IN WHICH THEY ARE CONNECTED OR INVOLVED
So, 50 % deposit instead of the maximum 5% for a contract of this value, no licence, no home warranty insurance certificate. This is still worth a complaint to NSW Fair Trading. The more complaints the better as it may eventually result in a public warning being issued about him and his companies, which is what he deserves.
DeleteATO are investigating his non payment of his Employees Superannuation entitlements. They are looking back through a list of past and present employees of several years. This could well and truely find him in a deep financial disposition, as the fines are very heavy for each Non payment to an Employee, plus what they are owed. This could be the icing on the cake. (Fingers crossed)
ReplyDeleteAny past or present Employee reading this Blog, I urge you to follow the link below, and fill in the online request to Investigate your case. This is about your money working for you. Not the Jolly slush retirement fund. Do not be frightened to make the online request, Jolly has to pay this - "It's a requirement by Law"
http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.aspx?doc=/content/86136.htm&alias=unpaidsuper
The administrator wanted to wind the company up but an alternative resolution was put up by Jolly to modify the Deed to give him until April 2014 to pay the estimated costs of the administration and a 5% return to creditors. Jolly's resolution failed "on the voices" but the ATO rep asked for a poll. This meant that votes were weighted according to the amount owed. As well over 50% of the debt is to the Jolly family, Jolly won the poll and his resolution to change the Deed was therefore carried. Jolly will win any poll because of this - he can have the Deed changed to his heart's content.
ReplyDeleteIt is time somebody seeks a winding up by the court as nobody can beat the Jolly family by voting at creditors' meetings.
I wonder if the new payment schedule makes allowance for the costs of increasing the amount of time that will need to be spent by the Administrator in administrating the deed, legal costs in variations to the Deed etc.
Montage made claim on me under bulders security act.
ReplyDeletePurely to steal more money as he got half of sum of contract.
Building inspector and structural engineer are in opinion(got in writing)that 3 out of 8 panels installed by Sandy are to come down as not complying with any standarts.
My lawyer filed response to his demand.
On advice,because we dealing with absolutely dishonest family I sent response by register mail,by normal mail,by fax,by email,by email with cc to administrator and as well delivered personally with two witnesses to their office.
Asked for signature as prove of delivery and Trent shouted that no one is allowed to receive my letter.
That shows you real colours of Jollys.
VERY IMPORTANT - You really need to send the registered letter to the registered business address of Montage Group Pty Ltd or Vollay, whatever name Jolly is using, otherwise he will simply pretend that the letter was never received. It is easy for him to do this if it is not sent to the registered address. Check this with your lawyer. When you demand a response, Bruce MacDonald will wait a month or so and send you a letter saying something like 'what registered letter? My client received no such letter.' At this point you will be back to the beginning and you will have lost about 2 months.
DeleteThe roles of the Administrator and the rights of creditors are explained very well here:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.worrells.net.au/Content/InsolvencyResources/InsolvencyResourceArticle.aspx?ArticleId=68
The ATO holds less than 10% of the debt and so, by my reading, did not have the right to demand a poll at the last creditors' meeting.
Has the administrator determined that Jill Jolly is really a creditor? The Jolly’s sold the family residence which was in Jill’s name (just in case the business collapsed), Jill Jolly inherited at least $400K when her father died. Michael Jolly claimed to have cleverly pulled a substantial amount of money out of investments before the GFC, so conceivably there was $2M or more in Jill Jolly’s name that she could have lent to Montage Group P/L. But where did it go? Apparently not to paying creditors or anything else that much benefited the company. Has it been tracked down? Has it just found its way, via circuitous routes, right back into the Jolly family? Clearly, so long as Michael Jolly maintains the apparent debt to Jill Jolly at an amount sufficiently exceeding the total amount owed to other creditors he can continue to manipulate the situation. I reckon the debt to Jill Jolly is nothing but a Jolly Fantasy.
ReplyDeleteJill Jollys father would be spinning in his grave if he knew that his hard earned money that he left her was being used to try and keep this doomed company afloat.This pre planned deciept by the Jollys will back fire He must be very proud of his daughter and son in law NOT!!!
ReplyDeleteLaughable *** Really Michael, You have a Degree in Engineering???
ReplyDeletehttp://au.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Michael/Jolly
(Inventor) Well one couldn't argue with that.
You can sure Invent some stories.
I don't now about Mr Jolly having engineering qualifications,but I can certify that he is INVENTOR of biggest scam in shutters indunstry.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone wants affidavit stating that Mr Michael Jolly is INVENTOR just contact me ,please.
No charge.
The registered office for Montage Group Pty Ltd is
ReplyDeleteGPL Partners
519 King Georges Rd
Beverley Hills
NSW 2209
I know many customers of Michael Jolly, Jill Jolly, Trent Jolly, Montage Group, Vollay, Vollay Systems and every single one who has been treated improperly and is unhappy with the result. Most companies in the Louvre Shutter/Opening Roof/Shade business gain 45-50% of their orders from repeat customers and referrals from past customers. The Jolly family fouls the customer relationship every time. The Jolly family relies on fresh customers virtually every time - every job must be a new 'sucker'. What appears on this blog site is a tiny fraction of what the Jolly family have done.
ReplyDeleteBEWARE - DO NOT RISK DEALING WITH MICHAEL JOLLY, JILL JOLL, OFFICE-BOY TRENT JOLLY, JOLLY FAMILY, MONTAGE GROUP, VOLLAY, VOLLAY SYSTEMS, VOLLAY CONTRACTS OR ANY OF THEIR OTHER COMPANIES. YOU WILL LOSE YOUR MONEY
Michael Jolly's has claimed that he is an Engineer. I understand that he was unable to even complete secondary school. He has absolutely no formal qualifications. Michael Jolly is not an engineer.
DeleteMichael Jolly claims that:
ReplyDelete“With Michael Jolly louver systems, the possibilities are endless”
TRUE – an endless wait for the supply of your order, an endless wait for Jolly to honour his promises, an endless wait for him to respond to your phone calls, endless frustration if you want your deposit refunded, an endless wait for the job to be completed, an endless wait for Home Warranty Insurance (which he cannot provide because he is not licensed), an endless wait for resolution of a warranty claim (which you cannot enforce because Jolly is not licenced), endless excuses, endless false claims, endless blame shifting, endless bullshit, endless lies, endless incompetence, endless . . . . ENDLESS!
Look elsewhere, don’t deal with these Michael Jolly companies or the Jolly Family:
Montage Group Vollay Vollay Contracts Vollay systems, Vollay shutters shutters by Jill Jolly Aluminium Shutters Aluminium louvres louvres-vollay louvres-vollay-system Michael Jolly Motorised Shutters opening roof venetians retractable volley and Michael Jolly Jill Jolly Trent Jolly Jolly Family
That is so funny LOL
DeleteLets hope Jolly and his scum family are not endless and they end soon
The incoming enquiry must have dried up by now with no website up and running
Must be getting his work by cold calling and endless bullshit but there are not many left who dont know about him by now
It now must be only a matter of time
A few years ago we enquired about enclosing out outdoor entertaining area with aluminium plantation shutters. We spoke to someone at Montage P/L (Michael Jolly or another man) about Vollay shutters and were give an approximate price as a $/sq metre, but we had higher priorities at the time and did not proceed.
ReplyDeleteI remember his impressive Montage website, but when I went looking for it recently I found this instead. The Montage website is a shadow of what it was. I looked for Vollay shutters and discovered the website is suspended.
After seeing this blog website I think I had better look elsewhere for my shutters.
Michael Jolly had attractive products, but seems to have thrown away a golden opportunity. People like that should not be in business.
Thank you to all who have contributed to this blog. I think you have saved me from an awful lot of trouble.
Whilst working on a job for the navy in Jervis Bay, he falsified papers to gain access to the base.
ReplyDeletevollay HK is entirely an independent entity and not in any part of Michael Jolly or his dearly wife Jillian Jolly and beloved son Trent Jolly . Its solely own by the original creator, designer of the vollay 5000 . What the hell does Michael Jolly know about engineering ????? He came to me with just simple hand drawings that even an elementary kid can draw and had no complete idea where to start with . Got all my original drawings and stole away what should be my very first patent in Australia . Anyway, The guy is a con artist and no regards for the human race , Stop dealing with them and do more research on how they cheat their suppliers and customers . Join the blog , Lots of info above .it will save you a lot of unnecessary troubles .
ReplyDeleteAfter my unfortunate dealings with this despicable family over the past few months and reading about other peoples dealings with them I would have say that this Jolly family is the lowest of the low I could call them scum but scum rises to the top I could call them bottom feeders but parasites would be a better description They have caused my family untold hassles and unpleasantness with their rude and dismissive attitude to the problems they have created through their lies and deceipt As result I have not been able to move into my new home as the products I have paid a considerable deposit for have not materialised.I get fobbed off everytime I call their office and can never get to speak to Mr Jolly as he is always "busy" and my calls are never returned I have tried to cancel the order but was told "you wont get any of your deposit back" and " read our terms and conditions" Please can someone do anything to help us ? What is Fair Trading doing about them ? Maybe it on MONTAGEGROUPVollay Contract Pty Ltd
ReplyDeleteDelete | Not spam Anonymous on 14/04/13
Make a complaint to NSW Department of Fair Trading. You will get your money back and Michael Jolly will be fined. Telephone 133 220 or find the complaint forms on the Fair Trading website. Michael Jolly is well known to the Department of Fair Trading, because he is a repeat offender. Don't delay. get it moving tomorrow. It will cost you nothing and you will win without any drama.
ReplyDeleteOur motorised system we purchased a couple of years ago has stopped working. we have requested the system be repaired under warranty. will keep you up to date with progress. does anyone know if Montage's project guy "Rod" is still with the company?
ReplyDeleteI am not surprised that you system is faulty and i am sorry yopu have to go through what all of us have been going through
DeleteGood luck with getting anything out of him
Go straight to Fair Trading as he will not honour any warranty you have
His warranties are purely lip service and mean nothing
Like everything Jolly produces it is sub standard and will always fail
I dont think Rod is working there anymore but the last number i have for him is 0400 524 722
You won't get any warranty out Montage - Period
DeleteCan you give me details of the motors fitted to the system.
0497165709 I maybe able to help you.
Engineer finding re: shutters at Voyager Motel installed by Montage -
ReplyDelete- For this application a much wider spreader plae should be used to distribute the fixing load over multiple bricks.It would be typical to use an angle fixed to the wall that bracket in turn fixes to ensure adequate distributio of ancor loads into the supporting cored brick wall.
- The dynabolt fasteners ae at their Working Load Limit supporting the self-weight of the louvre frames.With the addition of extra tension loads from potential wind loads the fasteners will be overstressed and subject to pull-ot from the wall.Hence, under a wind storm event the louvre frames could colapse.
-It was also noted that the louvre frame vertical members displayed significant lateral deflection under minor loads applied by pushing them.This indicates that the vertical members would not be structually adequate to resist lateral wind loads.
-Significant structural modifications would belikely to the frame to render them structually adequate and compliant with the Australian Standarts and building Code of Australia.
-Due to the architectual requirements of the louvre frames the addition of multiple supporting members back to the wall WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTABLE.Hence, the REMOVAL of the current frames & the istallation of new louvres that meet both the archtectual brief & astructual adequancy requirements will be required.
Above text is basically summary of 3 page report done by well known practising structural engineer.
I have seen this job and it is an absolute disgrace It is a mish mash at best
ReplyDeleteNo thought went into the design at all and Jollys attitude of " stuff the customer , he will get what I give him " will come back to bite him on the bum
The frames flex when pushed and half the 90mm louvre blades (not 115mm as quoted) will fall out before long because maybe 10% of them are screwed to the frame The rest are held in position by screws that can be pulled out by hand and the louvres will fall out
I am not surprised that this installation has been condemned as Jollys interpretaion of "engineering" is not the same as most other reputable companies
I am also told that Jill is looking a little worse for wear as a result of her darling husbands deeds
Isnt stress a bitch??
Richard Amery MP for Mt Druitt has now become involved in this Montage Vollay circus
ReplyDeleteHe has put to the Minister of Fair Trading in Parliment last week a few questions and is waiting for a response from them
Mr Amery has been a Minister since 1983 and is the longest serving MP in NSW
mailto:mountdruitt@parliament.nsw.gov.au
I will keep you posted on developments
click on the following link for more information and to see what he has asked The Minister for Fair Trading
http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/la/qala.nsf/c1e52c2011c46013ca2574a20081ab75/f600e157a3929d8aca257b5f000853a2?OpenDocument
Oh no He must have taken another deposit from some poor bugger who wont get his shutters/roof etc for 2 years if he is lucky
ReplyDeleteHas anybody else heard that Aussie from SBD and Jolly are out there looking for work together? I visited some sites in Lane Cove last week and both of them had been there sniffing around for work
ReplyDeleteIt didnt take long to put the builder in the picture so there will be nothing in Lane Cove for them now
If you smell a rat there is probably two of them Or maybe three!!!!!
They are not crumbling fast enough
ReplyDeleteSingapore was always going to fail so I am not surprised
Ute has gone but I would like to see the credit application filled out for Trent to buy another one for his deadshit father who cant get credit anywhere.
Seems jolly cant find money to fix a CNC machine that could make him money and probably hasnt got a muppet with enough brains to operate it anyway
I wonder how the Singapore crowd is going to get their deposit back now they have terminated his contract
It wont be long before Vollay Systems and Vollay Contract go down the drain as well
Lets hope so
warned the guys in singapore long before they approached Michael Jolly and his vollay company , they just could not resist the lies that seems so real .... poor buggers ....
DeleteI referred them to Colt so no regrets , probably price was an issue due to price tempatations from Michael Jollys stories .....
Well, it was meant to go down anyway
Vollay is now advertising in The Manly Daily Page 23
ReplyDeletewith contact numbers and Vollay website He does not have any licences or Home Warranty insurance
try the numbers provided 1300 865 529 and
0481 240 549 and see what response you get
I am a builder and was told yesterday that Ozzie and Jolly are both bust. So today while it is raining I looked up these two crooks. Both have been hassling me for an order recently. Thank christ I never passed them any money.I will report both of them to ASIC as both of them never legally disclosed of the positions they are in. I must make everyone aware,that Rod Keating is trying to now do dodgy business on the side too. These guys have left me and my clients with out any warranty on products supplied. Deal only with companies that have a history and will be around for years so they can provide a warranty.
ReplyDeleteWe tried a company that has been manufacturing these same products for years and they were usless too. Even after so many years trading. Ozzie wanted us to give him an order for the job not too long ago. He never told us of his situation either. Just glad we didn't give him any $$. Can anyone recommend a company that can deliver?
ReplyDeleteCheck out the link below about a builder in the NT doing dodgy stuff with customers money
ReplyDeleteHe had to pay fines and compensate his customers as well as serve 1 yrs jail which increased to 2 yrs if he didnt pay the money back
There may be hope for us all
http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2013/05/22/321187_ntnews.html
There is a lot people who like to see whole Jolly family in jail.
ReplyDeleteThey become known not only in NSW, but interstate, as well they left bad taste i China,Singapore and Hong Hong.
Montage International P/L
Called the mobile number and it was answered by Sandy
ReplyDeleteMaybe Sandy de Luca from Styles and Rails in Alexandria ? His #1 installer and sales person!!.
Called the 1300 number and answered by Rebecca from Vollay The phone must be ringing off the hook by the sounds of it
Also watch out for a short Cypriot guy called Aussie who is also working for Jolly trying to pick up commercial work all over Sydney
You can be sure of one thing
ReplyDeleteEvery person who has ever come into contact with this family has come out of this in a worse situation than they were before they ever had the misfortune to cross paths with these pathalogical liars and con men
Not only would they have lost their money or had a sub standard end product delivered (or non delivered)but would have also been subject to a torrent of lies and verbal abuse with Trent being one of the most obnoxious and rudest people I have come across In the Jollys world this customer is always wrong
Customer service is not practised within this company regardless of the speil on Jollys pathetic Blogs
Example "About Vollay
Our Mission is to provide an integrated range of superior products at a realistic and competitive price, whilst being customer focused so that we and our clients can prosper, bring happiness to the consumer and have a positive impact on the environment."
Trent must have Michaels genes as he is a chip off the old block
This is an edited version of the introduction on the Vollay website
ReplyDeleteOver time, with the expansion of the range, overseas clients also saw the disadvantage of products that had not been tested to any standard, and they soon became part of our ex customer base.
From our factory/warehouse based at Seven Hills in NSW, we havn’t been servicing our customer’s requirements, non supplying a complete range of products Australia wide, specialising in the areas of non delivery of timber venetian and shutter systems.
During this period, we identified a need to supply economical, integrated light control and energy management systems. We should have invented the light switch!!
Based on our lack of knowledge and inexperience with blinds and shutters we utilised the natural ventilation characteristics, and began work on our environmentally sensitive systems I don’t know what this means but it sounds good
In our quest to establish the highest quality range of products, we found it necessary to invest in research and development tools using customers deposits to enable us to achieve our goals. This included the establishment of an internal design facility ( a very small office downstairs) using CAD technology to assist in the ongoing development of our systems but unfortunately our designer has left as he had enough of the bullshit going on upstairs A full time tool maker was employed, enabling us to perform product cycle testing, prototyping and assist in the development of assembly jigs and tooling But he also left for the same reasons
From our successful?? start in someone else’s design and manufacture of Vollay Aluminium Shutters and Louvres, we have utilised this technology to grow our business in the Commercial arena and now don’t supply one of the most incomprehensive ranges of residential and commercial shutter and louvre systems available in Australia today.
With a wide range of blades sizes and designs from 45 to 600mm, Vollay customers are able to satisfy their customer’s demands with virtually and project that comes their way. This is further enhanced by the Vollay philosophy of continual product product improvement and our ’boutique’ (what does this mean?) approach to new product design and development enables new products to hit the market very quickly. Except for Singapore where we didn’t have a clue what we were doing How I am ever going to pay back the deposit they paid me ?? Please excuse the grammar and spelling in this paragraph as I didn’t finish school
Vollay Systems in-house CAD and graphic design facilities no longer offers a complete creative package for the development of technical drawings and point-of-sale material as Jeremy has left , slowing down the creative process and not allowing the client the opportunity to converse with our technical/creative team
From now on you will have to speak to Trent
Santiago ‘Sandy’ de Luca is unlicenced for domestic work – I checked it on the Fair Trading website. So, like Michael Jolly and his companies (Montage Group, Vollay Contracts, Vollay Systems etc. etc.), he cannot provide Home Warranty Insurance and any ’10 Year Warranty’ promised by Jolly on his products and installations is unenforceable apart from Jolly’s inclination not to honour the warranty on his products.
ReplyDeleteJolly, de Luca & Ucaner in cahoots – Three Desperados on a path to self-destruction.
BEWARE OF THE THREE DESPERADOS
MICHAEL JOLLY
SANTIAGO ‘SANDY’ DE LUCA
OZAN ‘OZZIE’ UCANER
Below is a response from the questions asked of the Fair Trading Minister by MP Richard Amery See post above dated 6th May
ReplyDeletebelow is the link to Richard Amerys web page
http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/la/qala.nsf/c1e52c2011c46013ca2574a20081ab75/f600e157a3929d8aca257b5f000853a2?OpenDocument
3863—COMPLAINTS RE MONTAGE GROUP PTY LTD
Mr Richard Amery to the Minister for Fair Trading—
1.Has the Department of Fair Trading received complaints about the actions of Montage Group Pty Ltd?
2.Is this company connected to other companies such as Montage Group Vollay Contract Pty Ltd and Vollay Systems and Montage Group Pty Ltd?
If so, how many complaints have been lodged against the above named companies?
3.What has been the result of any such complaints?
Answer—
NSW Fair Trading advises me of the following:
1.Yes.
2.Montage Group Pty Ltd and Vollay Systems Pty Ltd did share a director until 4 March 2013. Shares in Vollay Systems Pty Ltd are owned by a company that shares a director with Montage Group Pty Ltd.
There is no company with the name "Montage Group Vollay Contract Pty Ltd" registered with the Australian Securities and Investments Commission.
3.One complaint lodged against Montage Group Pty Ltd also relates to Vollay Systems Pty Ltd.
To date, Montage Group Pty Ltd has been issued with penalty notices for unlicensed contracting, taking excessive deposits, and a failure to provide home warranty insurance.
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Question asked on 2 May 2013 (session 55-1) and published in Questions & Answers Paper No. 151.
Answer received on 6 June 2013 and to be printed in Questions & Answers Paper No. 161
End of published questions and answers
If you have been affected in any way by Montage Group , Vollay Systems or Michael Jolly then you need to contact either Richard Amery MP or go directly to Fair Trading and speak to Stephen Hopkins or Stacey White
Nothing will happen unless you speak up and tell FT of your issues with excessive deposits,non delivery of goods ,non licenced installations ,no home warranty insurance or in some cases threats of court action unless you pay more money.The Public cannot let this creep continue to rip people off unabated and if you have information ,pass it on and they WILL act as they are now compiling a big folder on these companies and Mr Jolly
If you know of anything criminal such as insurance fraud contact Elders on 08 8113 1597
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There a a few simple rules to follow if you are contemplating complaining or takng action about the activities of these jerks.
ReplyDeleteIf complaining, get the company name right - there are three that I know of:
Montage Group Pty Ltd
Vollay Systems Pty Ltd
Vollay Contract Pty Ltd
Examine your quote / email or whatever and make sure you complain about the entity which has misled you. If you are serving letters of demand or other legal notices, make sure that these are sent to the registered office of the entity with which you have a complaint.
Go to a NSW Fair Trading Office and complain in person. Take all relevant documents with you, with copies. Fill out the complaint form and make sure you are issued with a case number. Your case will be followed up. Many people complaining on this forum bitch about Jolly and his companies, but do not make official complaints. They are wasting their time unless they make a formal complaint.
None of the Montage or Vollay companies or Jolly hold contractor's licences and therefore cannot advertise, quote on or undertake any domestic work worth $1K +. He cannot even sign you up and then engage a licensed contractor to undertake the work (not that he seems to associate with any licensed contractors). You need a licence to even advertise the capacity to arrange this type of work.
Don't just complain on this forum..... ACT!!! Get your deposit back and get him fined - either through NSW Fair Trading and the CTTT or your lawyer. Take action and win. I did.
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DeleteThat be only one country in entire universe where company like Montage could operate.
ReplyDeleteAt the beginning of 2011 we done deal with Montage to manufacture and install 8 shutters at Voyager Motel for a sum of $86000 ex GST.
Everything was sweet till Jollys convinced me to give them $47000
in deposits.
After I got all lies and excuses.Anyone who talk to Jollys knows how charming they are till they extract money from you.
For $47000 I got 3 out of 8 shutters which are made of second hand material.Re-powdercoated.I orrdered blades 115 mm Jollys decided to made of 90 mm.ALL HANGING BY FEW SCREWS.
All dented.Scratched.
He wanted to be paid more for that scam.He was shouting.He was calling me crook.He was treatening me with someone unknown.
(anyone was treatened by JOLLYS with bikies before???)
To my suprise they sent me demand under Builder Security Payment ACT for another $42000.
Would I not know about that ACT they will do me for another 42K.
To defend I hire expert building inspector,structural engineer and paid for lawyer to answer they demand.Few thousand of my money again gone.
I hate day the I walked into Jolly office.
Not hard to guess that both,engineer and inspector condemned whole structure.
You will think that they oferred make it good.
NO.NO.They said they got money and ouldnt talk to me.
IIS THERE ANYONE STILL WHO WANTS TO DO BUSINESS WITH THIS MOB???
I am very serious.I feed my MPs with all informations about them.
Their ex employees contacting me giving me lots information about my job.About how they treat them in workplace.Very interesting stuff.
I got some information about insurance claim.For police to investigate I need just little more.
Please contact me on 0418 635 399 or anyone welcome to see me at Voyager Motel, 863 Great Western Hwy,Minchinbury.
Ted Kasiewicz
Sir, did Jolly mention which bikies. I am a member of one of Sydeny's bikie gang and would like to know which group he is refering too.If he has mentioned a gangs name that gang would always sort out anyone using their gangs name. Maybe he means one of the religious groups and then you have no problem. Let us know and we maybe able to help.
Deletewhich group are you with mate? And would they like to sort this scumbag out?
DeleteI was lucky enough to come across this blog before i made the move to place an order for some shutters.
ReplyDeletei am just curious to be reading most of this blog and have to ask why everyone is 'Anonymous'??? what do you have to worry about,this Mr Jolly obviously needs to be sorted out or knocked out and everyone needs to go directly to Fair Trading.
A creditors meeting has been called on Tuesday 9th July to wind him up
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like the administrator has also had enough
Time to bury the bastard once and for all and hopefully the ATO and ASIC will climb all over him and investigate further Something they should have done a long time ago
It wont be long before Vollay are in exactly the same situation It is criminal what they have got away with and it has to stop
what a waste of time its just the Administrator trying to get more money, for themselves there will be nothing for anyone else
ReplyDeleteDean-Willcocks Shepard recovery company is very well known in our industry they have worked for a lot of very dodgy company's
and all they do is make money for themselves with nothing for the creditors,
don't hold you breaths
Jolly has had lots of time to hide everything even from the tax man,
the man from the bikie has the right Idea
just a shame its took this long I blame the Tax office and ACCC and the ASIC for not jumping on this crowd months ago if they had they could have saved a lot of people a lot of Money and upset
This guy is a cheat and needs to be stopped I can't believe a company like this could trade taken ppls money giving them rubbish what trash he is, Michael joke they should name him, he should be stopped immediately before my innocent ppl are burnt by this scum bag.
ReplyDeleteI applied for a job at vollay I worked for one week and that was more than enough, his employers told me to read the blog he had about him,wasn't surprised to be honest, I've not seen such dodgy work in my life, shutters that aren't designed for structural use, really dodgy installation all set out and designed by Michael jolly, I had to leave this place as I was instructed to do dodgy work, I couldn't do it how is this company allowed to trade?
ReplyDeleteHe is taking panels to Byron bay his loaded in top of the ute, I've carried panels on to pellet the welding was breaking off while we where moving, doesn't have the right welding equipment to do job, powder coating in patches Louvre blades not straight an absolute boggy job, his sold a lemon, no freight company would deliver for him they've all been burnt to, so he is delivering himself lol. His got no shame what so ever he should not get paid a cent for that crap, he should not be allowed to install this as it is not safe, if you read this blog and its your job plz do not except it.
ReplyDeleteI was employed by Michael to just worked one week & that was too long, he got me to fix job in camden couldn't believe what I seen this job was the worse ive ever seen, feel sorry for customer, Michael asked me the best way to fix it I just said take it all down, I didn't want anything to do with it to be honest, so we pulled down, I've got job all on video and photos of this job, anyway I started to install the way it should've been, he kept calling me asking me if I had finished yet, I said where doing it this way to get it right, he charged the customer 50k for this job not even worth 5k, 8k to sheet ceiling 5mx300 and he used 6mm wall lining villaboard for ceiling & set it with interior top coat for a exterior job..lol he called me into his office to ask me why job hasnt been complete, I said just trying to do job right, his response was ill be out off business if I try to do work right..lol what a joker..,that was enough for me I told him to shove his job and business..
ReplyDelete9th July should be the end of this scum bag, it won't get money back for anyone he has ripped off, houses he claimed that would look a lot better with this product in your home only if they knew, I believe Apollo have worked him out too its all coming down, there has been numerous calls to fair trading, its given Apollo a bad name, & of course this blog has helped, this organization is gonna turn into a zoo of monkeys, where it belongs..
ReplyDeleteI wish your right mate this bloke ruined a lot lives, if it did turn into a zoo of monkeys I'll throw a banana at them all..lol
ReplyDeleteI would like the guys who posted the last 2 or 3 posts to come forward and assist others by providing more information on what has been going on in Jollys world
ReplyDeleteIt is important for this to be made known as it will provide us all with first hand experiences of what he has been doing and hopefully some of these customers who have been supplied with dodgy product will also come forward
Contact Ted on 0418635399 He will be very pleased to hear from you as he has also been conned by Jolly big time
Today is D Day for this dysfunctional rubbish Jolly family
ReplyDeleteI hope that he is wound up and investigated in depth by the ATO and ASIC not to mention Fair Trading
I hope the vote goes our way and he hasn't manipulated or threatened his staff with the sack if they dont sign the proxy vote in his favour He has done this on previous occasions and bullied his staff to sign. I suppose when you need a job like we all do then you will do anything to keep your job.Fair Work Australia may have something to say about this when i contact them again
If you are going to the meeting at 11am today talk to others around you because we all need to stick together if Jolly is to be put out of business It wont be long before Vollay will go the same way but unfortunately he will take others down with him again
The Jolly family are such trailer trash
Montage has now been wound up so one down ,one to go
ReplyDeleteThe ATO will be investigating both entities now so no rest for the short shit
Jolly ,you and your family are grubs and deserve all that is coming to you
There are enough people out there who want you in jail and they wont rest until you are, you rubbish
Jolly went into liquidation today.
ReplyDeleteAbout time what's going to happen to all the ppl owed money & lives his ruined to get to where he is, no jail time no justice out there?
ReplyDeleteASIC.ATO.FAIR TRADING.CTTT.INSURANCE CLAIMS.HUNDREDS OF ENEMIES. HUNDREDS OF CREDITORS.
ReplyDeleteFAIRWORK.UNPAID CONTRACTORS.UNPAID SUPPLIERS.PEOPLE CHEATED IN CHINA, HONG HONG, SINGAPORE.UNPAID SUPER.
THAT DEVASTATION DONE BY JOLLYS.
ALL GOT 10 (TEN) YEARS WARRANTY.
is the liquidation final? The obvious winner -Administration! And not a bit of us!
ReplyDeleteNo JAIL TIME for the three musketeers?
Watchout Vollay, your next!
This germ must go under, the piece of s#!t needs to get his own back.
ReplyDeleteI have been ripped of by this family and want to see them go under. I really hope people on here get money back off this scum.
Does anyone no who the liquidator is that has just been appointed, and do you have a contact number?
Thanks
The liquidator is Adam Shepard 02 9221 0560 or 9234 0400
ReplyDeletethese arseholes cost me everything. business, house and family
ReplyDeletedoes anyone know where his project manager "Rod" is as he should be made accountable too for our mess?
ReplyDeleteMichael jolly very happy today, he even gave me a pay rise. The happiest I've seen him, sorry mate can't give any information, It's all about the dollar & jollys got a lot to through around, he might be a scum bag and everything under the sun but he pays my wage? & plus its a bludge there do fuck all and pays good dollar.
ReplyDeleteThe administrators have a lot to answer for
ReplyDeleteThey were made aware of Jollys methods and scams from the beginning but have either chosen to do nothing about it or their hands were tied
Its about time they acted in the interests of creditors and started winding up proceedings of all companies that he and his scatty wife are involved in and also stopped him from taking deposits from unsuspecting customers as he has no intention of honouring any job he takes on If he is continuing to take deposits then he should be in breach of the companies act Taking deposits while trading insolvent
Who in their right mind would call for a meeting of creditors on 3rd January when 90% of people are on holiday and are unaware of the meeting or could not make it to have their say Demand another meeting with the administrators
Jolly has money stashed away offshore and property up the Central Coast and Hawkesbury Government agencies should have access to all this information and they should come down on them like a ton of bricks Freeze all their bank accounts and assets until all creditors are paid up in full Then lock him up
Ruin their lives like they have done to so many over the years
Lets see the back of him
Tell your local member of Parliment,Fair Trading,Ray Hadley,A Current Affair and expose these grubby people for what they are
Action people!! Blogs like this will expose him for what he is but the authorities must stop him from ever trading again
we had a job installed by "shutters by design". A Mr Rod Keating was the salesman. Ozzie was the manager. Yesterday our system stopped working and we went to call the company for repairs. Number has been disconnected. I asked our neighbour who installed his system to be advised it was Montage who wont return their calls for service. I googled Montage to find this blog. jesus. Are these two companies and people related?
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ReplyDeleteI have just spoken to Steve Hopkins from Fair Trading
ReplyDeleteIf anyone reading this has any issues with Jolly then contact Steve directly on 9895 0111 or email him stephen.hopkins@services.nsw.gov.au
The more people who contact them ,the better chance of something being done about it
Dont sit on your hands and do nothing or else he will continue to rip people off
I have a Court hearing and need more witnesses to describe to Court Trent Jolly character and his way of telling the truth. Need people who had knowledge of that man and who willing testify in Court about his outstanding character.
ReplyDeletePlease contact Ted on 0418 635399 or email: voyagermotel@gmail.com
The common theme with all these people who have been caught out is that you have gone with the cheapest price and got what you paid for.learn from this lesson
ReplyDeleteTHANKS TO THIS BLOG I SAVED MYSELF THOUSANDS I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SIGN UP FOR A 159K JOB, I APPRECIATE THIS BLOG THANK GOD!! HOW THE HELL IS THIS BLOKE IN BUSINESS?
ReplyDeleteIf you need assitance in supply ,Call 0404630070 he can help.
DeleteHe helped me finish off what Michael Jolly had started but did not finished with all his lies and deception !
You are lucky !
This blog will haunt Michael Jolly and his family forever ! I am also thankful to this blog as it had helped a lot of innocent and honest individuals.
Cheers.
I like to address blog about the cheapest price.
ReplyDeleteAt least in my case is not true.I took 3 quotes. First was from gentleman oririginally from India. That quote I obtained by builder. I decided to see factory and what they do. To my surprise on address supplied was different company. As complex belong to good friend on my I contacted him to find out they flew away one night without paying outstanding lease. Obviously told them goodbye..
Next quote was few thousand cheaper then Montage.
I decided not on price.No one could sell better then Jollys.Seen factory. Local. Ten years warranty
Best promises.
I was sold NOT on price.I WAS SOLD ON BEST LIES>
Jollys All deserves master degrees in deception and dishonesty.
To the inconsiderate man who cancelled his $159k job
ReplyDeleteMr Jolly was relying on that money to continue to pay his monthly expenses and wages
Now you have decided not to place the order Mr Jolly must now get back into his ute and go and find another mug to pay a deposit so he can continue to trade
Dont think for a minute that the money you were going to pay him was to be used to buy materials and make the goods.
I heard the other day that nothing left his factory for 2 1/2 months probably due to no money to pay for extrusions to make the stuff
Montage and Vollay customers are merely there to keep Jollys cash flow going and there is no intent on supplying any body anything
Michael jolly told me how he skims money from his company ,he get his wife Jill to make up invoices with photo shop for cash, only small amounts takes out the cash, but over a year it would add up to over 40k.so when the ATO starts to look through him I hope they start there .
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ReplyDeleteThanks to all the idiots out there Michael who paid deposits for lemons.. Michael jolly is going to Europe for 6weeks to enjoy your hard earned money you fools..
ReplyDeleteWell Mark Vollay , Make sure you get the message pass thru Michael Jolly that his next ! Not anymore Montage , Not any more Vollay or whatever he is called in the future ,It will be Michael Jolly and his family this time !!!!!
DeleteFools ??? Lets see who is fool ! Either he is fooling himself against law or money is fooling him ??????
It all boils back to basic !!!!! This blog and actions being taken says a lot ,as long as this blog is active ,It will follow Michael Jolly ,Trent Jolly ,Jill Jolly like a GHOST forever !!!!!!!
Please do not call me or anyone from app. 170 creditors an idiot.
ReplyDeleteObviously you never were in business and never created anything, otherwise you will know that any commercial venture carry some risks.
Anyone of us were dealing with physical person having registered for few years business, one could see factory, production and Jollys were making lots of sense when negotiated a contract.
If you approach someone who having advantage over you because he knows he not going to do what agreed, like Jollys whom had vast experience in deception and cheating, you stand no chance.
I feel offended by your statement and I guess others are too.
You said truth, that Australian Governments of every level supports that kind of behaviour and that sad part of our system where crooks got more rights than those who do the right thing.
There is a lot of people who now moving heaven and earth to make sure that Mr Jolly holiday in Europe will his be last.
Dark clouds are coming for family of Jollys.....
Mark Vollay
ReplyDeleteNot only do you have balls writing on here about customers being idiots but you need to back up what you are saying
Anyone involved with Jolly in any way is complicit with what Jolly is doing so unless you tell the right people what he has been up to then you are tarred with the same brush as the filthy Jolly family
I wonder what you will say when Jolly does a runner to Europe and doesnt come back What will happen to your job then ?
Speak up before it is too late and you are left without a job earning no money and doing fuck all as opposed to going into the lions den and doing fuck all but still getting paid with dodgy money ie OTHER PEOPLES
Dear Mark,
ReplyDeleteI really very sorry for you. It seems to me, after reading your blogs that you actually enjoy and support way your bosses, Jollys,
robbing unexpected customers.
Instead of condemning them, you giving them your support.
We all got different upbringing. Looks like you in your age didn't learnt anything about what moral , what not or how to earn living honest way.
In some stage in my life a learnt about karma. Find out about and
don't think for a moment that anyone of us is immune.
Some saying if you fight with the sword you die by the sword.
As I said I am just a hard working migrant who hardly could speak English. Its makes harder for me to get to my goals after Jollys cheated me.
I have to say I am glad that I made Jollys and their companies known to NSW Parliament. Known to Members. Known to Minister.
I can assure you that Jollys have full attention in Department of Fair Trading. What the privilege to have assigned officer especially to them.
I feel specially honoured that I was one of three person voted Montage into liquidation.
Some on blog know that Jollys took AVO against me so I cannot annoy them about money they owe me.
Next station is ASIC.
I believe that ASIC is just few steps from investigating conduct of companies under Jollys directorship. Taking deposits while insolvent and giving nothing, but pain to rob innocent people who entrusted them with hard earned monies.
Still issue of insurance.
Still issue of licences.
Guys, what about getting free advertising for our heroes on radio and TV?
That will come later.
I paid my deposit to Jollys at the beginning of 2011 and nothing happened except that I got extra costs of taking shutters down and repairing he wall.
So I decided to deliver free advertising.
I am not expecting thanks from our friends....
I'm not condemning nothing, but there is millions of jollys around that conduct there business in this manner and get away with it. These type of grubs get away with it I'm sorry for you, but do you think he really gives a shit, to him its business the way he knows. All you could do is learn from it there is nothing you or anybody can do. He is too corrupt for you all. Just count it as a lost.
ReplyDeleteDon't you think is time to stop people like Jollys?
ReplyDeleteAt every step he lives misery for people who unfortunate to come across him. I already wrote off the losses.
Only one point he didn't took in account.I NEVER GIVE UP.
Because of this blog he couldn't get new deposits. All regulatory organisations are after him. Insurances. Hope soon police.
Jollys are not untouchable, its slow but one day they will regret robbing people. I leave NO stone unturned till they get what they deserve. Lots of people who he robbed or mistreated are helping me. All legal way, no lies unlike Jollys mob.
Think about and stop support them.Just do your job, take money because I feel wouldn't be long before he depart business activity as there is no place for them in commercial world.
Have a good day.(by the way it is perfect job if you could sit in front of PC at 9:48 am unless your you sitting upstairs in office)
How do you feel about feeding your family with the proceeds of crime?
ReplyDeleteMarkJolly from Vollay
ReplyDeleteYou must either be Trents boyfriend or the queen himself
Dont waste your time putting you uneducated and one eyed bullshit on here because it wont last long a bit like your job when Jolly goes down
MARK VOLLAY,
ReplyDeleteYou clearly are a person of very low IQ and are only semi-literate. If licking a shonk's backside is the best you can do in this world, then you have a big problem. Jolly will soon tire of you and you will be disposed of in Jolly's usual unpleasant way. It will come when you least expect it and, with your low intellect, you will have neither a useful defence nor a useful response. Then your slow-working brain may just begin to comprehend. You are a total waste of space. Keep your stupid comments and inane opinions to yourself.
I might have a low iq? But your the dumb cunt that got ripped off and there is nothing you can do about it, I think you should have a brain examination done I'm sure they'll find nothing up there. Jolly chew and spits guys like you out. Why don't you all back off let us run the business to higher grounds, Your obviously a rich upper class person that think ppl who live out west are illiterate, one thing about us is.we know when we see a con.
ReplyDeleteHa ha ha ....What did you say - " Let us run the business ..." Way to go Trent ... In this simple blog , It was quite easy for you to be shaken ,Showing how fragile a LADY TRENT can be ... Ha ha ha ... Now , Magnify that and thats what your dear Father arshole is ... LIES NEVER CAN BE COVERED , The more LIES you have , The more you fragile you are !!!!! YOu can't hide , If this blog can shaken you and get your covered revealed , Guess what ASIC , and other Government bodies will do ..... Poor illiterate boy !!!!Or Girl ????? Ha ha ha ..... What a low life family you are !!!!!!
DeleteIs this the best you can do ??????? You are against many of us , And eventually , You , Michael and Jill will get your own dose of medicine !!!!!! We sleep with no worries , How about you ? You think you,Michael & Jill are smart ?
Go see three of your name in Google and what do you get ????????? Thanks to Google, Blogs and search engines ,What a way to go in this age of networking !!!!!! You have no place to hide your name unless you change yourself totally a be more a female (Wish come true ?????) ....What a big fucking joke !!!!!!! Ha ha ha Ha ha ha .... Karma !!! Karma!!! Karma !!!!
This is for you Trent alias Mark from VOLLAY
ReplyDeleteWe are onto you big time
Always remember that we will always be smarter than you ( that wont be hard)
I can tell from your postings that you have a poor education and most likely learning difficulties You cant spell for shit and you are delusional about the extent of your grubby fathers fraud and YOU WILL be dragged through the courts along with him because you are party to this
That you condone this makes you an accessory and I will make sure that you are dragged into this big time
You will be unemployable ( Sorry you already are because no one else will employ you except your family )especially after prospective employers Google your name and see you associated with this large scale fraud
TRENT JOLLY FRAUD
As for running this "business" to higher grounds!! You have stooped as low as anyone can possibly go and it will be run INTO the ground
Dont bother posting any more of your drivel
It will be removed
www.montage.com.au is now dead. Hopefully vollay.com will follow soon.
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ReplyDeleteI like to really thanks ALL who contributing to exposing criminal activities of directors of Montage.
ReplyDeleteToday Ray Hadley from 2GB talked about Montage and Vollay. Appealed to contact Fair Trading.
Thank you Ray for help.
There is hearing in CTTT against Mr Jolly company in Penrith on 13th August 14-30pm.
Everyone welcome.
Insurance claims will be investigated. I wouldnt like to be in Mr Jolly shoes.
Asic soon.
More radio advertising coming soon.
We working on TV expose.Looking promising.
Some of us according to "Mark" are brainless , brain damaged,some are are stupid WOGS.
More to come, just watch this space.
We got to finish our job so Jollys never again takes deposit from anyone or get chance to abuse and cheat employees.
Together we could do it! All lawfull way with no lis or deception.
I wish you all the best in your action in the CTTT, but I note that the action is against Montage Group P/L which is now in liquidation. This is a CTTT report on a similar situation:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cttt.nsw.gov.au/About_us/News_and_events/Whats_new/2012/Solar_hot_water_companies_in_liquidation.html
It would seem that the leave of the Supreme Court will be needed for the action to proceed. Are you sure that you signed a contract with Montage Group P/L and not Vollay Systems P/L, as there would appear to be no problem in an action proceeding with against Vollay Systems if it was a party to the contract. Maybe you should speak to your lawyer.
All the best.
I like to inform all, that today I got letter from my very active and hard working labour MP Mr Ed Husic, Parliamentary Secretary to Prime Minister, in which he informing me that he asked ASIC to investigate Mr Jolly and his companies.
ReplyDeleteSurely Ed deserve our votes in incoming elections.
Hope that ASIC going to expose all facts about companies under MR Michael and Trent Jolly directorship.
I hope, as well, that ASIC find the tracks of money that Jollys have taken from customers as deposits yet Montage and Vollay have not delivered the goods in most cases
I hope Jolly goes down. Having done business with M.Jolly, T.Jolly, & J.Jolly I understand what how bad they are. He tried to rip us of big time! He lied and lied and lied. His lies hurt our reputation and he did not give a damn. Michael is a professional deposit taker, he his a liar, a thief, & & his shutters aren't even any good!I have never met any associate who has a good word to say about him. Well done to the makers of this blog!
ReplyDeleteJolly is nothing but a parasite and a psychopath. Having created the appearance of a genuine business, he has proceeded to run a shambolic operation where he has let down his customers (direct and indirect) and his creditors. He has persisted without appropriate licences, frequently fails to properly complete installations, and he refuses to honour warranties.
ReplyDeleteHe runs a scam of taking deposits and frustrating customers efforts to either secure delivery of product or have the deposit returned.
It is not simply that he is incompetent, his behaviour is deliberate - this is his ‘business model'.
He cares about no-one and relies on his excessive amounts of gall, so extreme that even the courts apparently do not comprehend how bad he is. The whole operation is a fraud.
I fear that the CTTT, ASIC, ATO etc. will give Jolly another insignificant fine and allow him to continue unabated. They have been largely ineffectual to date.
Oh my god this blog has saved us our architect had specified our new house with heaps of this companies products thank you so much we have sorted our architect out and we are looking elsewhere thanks again
ReplyDeleteJill Jolly's mobile is 0418 821 380. Has been removed from the website. I wonder why?
ReplyDeleteremember these bogans live at
ReplyDeleteunit 607
15-17 Penninsula Drive
Breakfast Point
Go and make them a visit
They can afford to live in a nice apartment while they fleece everyone
Jolly wont have to pay rent at Silverwater We tax payers will pay for it
Michael Jolly once told me that he knew little of the law, but he had managed to avoid serious trouble through his ability to "muddy the waters". Whenever Jolly is in a tight corner he just talks verbal diarrhoea - he invents stories at such a rate that opposing legal people and magistrates (people who typically think of themselves as being clever) are baffled by the wall of bullshit and make poor decisions. This will be his technique with the CTTT, ASIC, Police, insurance companies, etc. - "muddy the waters" to create confusion and doubt. I don't know why the legal profession are unable to see through his technique - everyone else understands what is going on - a flood of falsehoods, twisted part truths, and red herrings. Be ready for the barrage of bullshit.
ReplyDeleteI do believe that from now on is different story.
ReplyDeleteMy MP Mr Ed Husic is very smart guy and he went through all documentation before sending to ASIC.
I would think since Jollys crossed my path his lies are becoming irrelevant, as most agencies will look at evidence and we ALL got plenty.
Same with HON Richard Amery.He is ex police officer, long time MP and before he acted he read all material.
So on ,so on.
In letter to ASIC HON Ed Husic asking to inform me as well as him on progress. I believe that I might not get all information, as some might be privilege and only will be available to Secretary to Prime Minister.
You very right and I love your description "diarrhoea".
I really think this time Jollys running out of luck as I am through my life always achieved my goals.
Now my goal, as many of you, is to see them answer for years of cheating.
Note that ATO is on their back and they don't take rubbish from anyone. They can talk as fast they want, Jill maybe best accountant, but ATO forensic accountants are pretty clever and got very wide powers and unlimited resources.
I think there is mutual feeling.
Jollys wish they never come across Ted , Ted wish never met fast talking Jollys.
There are unleashed some forces on them now so just let wait how smart really we are in our country.
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ReplyDeleteThere is lots of people would like to pay visit Jollys in jail when they belong to.
ReplyDeleteGuys, maybe our wish comes through.
See what happen with allegations of insurance frauds.
IF ANYONE GOT MORE KNOWLEDGE NOW IS THE TIME TO COME FORWARD.
Taxman in line.
ASIC will make full investigation.
Trading insolvent, taking deposits is a CRIME.
TV program must be delayed as will interfere with investigation and something to do with law.
It will happen in right time.
I never knew how many friends of my want to help us.
We must be patient. We cannot abuse Jollys, we got to do all within a letter of the law.
We can state here ALL true facts and exchange informations.
Who can here briefly write about Jollys dealing with China, Singapore and Honghong??
That be interesting reading.
I know few Chinese. They same like Polish.Never forget.
They got nowhere to hide, nowhere to run.Lets wait.
Jolly and aluminium extrusions – When I first met Jolly, he told me that all the shutter extrusions were made in Australia by Capral Aluminium and sourced via OneSteel who kept stock for – “no Chinese rubbish.” I subsequently found that his aluminium extrusions were supplied by Panasia (China). His technique is to go to a new extrusion supplier talking BiG with substantial volume usage. The supplier thinks there will be good business and makes extrusion dies at their own expense and keeps substantial stocks in their Australian warehouse. Panasia has a warehouse in Villawood. Eventually it becomes apparent that Jolly is calling forward much less material than he forecast and is costing too much in storage charges and is well behind with payments, and Panasia refused to extend more credit. I heard that he owed Panasia about $700K. I understand that Panasia gave up pursuing Jolly because of the difficulty and expense of dealing with the Australian legal system and the likelihood that even if they won the case, Jolly would be unable to pay or would dodge payment by going into administration.
ReplyDeleteJolly solved his supply problem by finding another supplier – Trango Aluminium. He followed the same basic procedure till they also refused to supply. Trango demanded “Director’s Guarantee” and a list of his assets. Jolly thought it was hilarious, because, as he stated “. . . all my assets are in my wife’s name.” Eventually Trango agreed to supply extrusions to Jolly, provided that they were ordered and paid for by Jillian Jolly.
Panasia was using an Australian law firm, some or all members of which were of Chinese origin and hence possessed all the necessary language skills.
It might be a good time to try to reactivate Panasia’s claim on Jolly – especially as the Jolly’s activities are increasingly under the microscope.
The Pure Shutters man in Hong Kong could be a good place to start.
Jolly and aluminium extrusions – When I first met Jolly, he told me that all the shutter extrusions were made in Australia by Capral Aluminium and sourced via OneSteel who kept stock for Montage – “no Chinese rubbish.” I subsequently found that his aluminium extrusions were supplied by Panasia (China). His technique is to go to a new extrusion supplier talking BiG about substantial volume usage. The supplier thinks there will be good business and makes extrusion dies at their own expense and keeps substantial stocks in their Australian warehouse. Panasia has a warehouse in Villawood. Eventually it becomes apparent that Jolly is calling forward much less material than he forecast and is costing too much in storage charges and is well behind with payments, and Panasia refused to extend more credit. I heard that he owed Panasia about $700K. I understand that Panasia gave up pursuing Jolly because of the difficulty and expense of dealing with the Australian legal system and the likelihood that even if they won the case, Jolly would be unable to pay or would dodge payment by going into administration.
ReplyDeleteJolly solved his supply problem by finding another supplier – Trango Aluminium. He followed the same basic procedure till they also refused to supply. Trango demanded “Director’s Guarantee” and a list of his assets. Jolly thought it was hilarious, because, as he stated “. . . all my assets are in my wife’s name.” Eventually Trango agreed to supply extrusions to Jolly, provided that they were ordered and paid for by Jillian Jolly.
Panasia was using an Australian law firm, some or all members of which were of Chinese origin and hence possessed all the necessary language skills.
It might be a good time to try to reactivate Panasia’s claim on Jolly – especially as the Jolly’s activities are increasingly under the microscope.
The Pure Shutters man in Hong Kong could be a good place to start.
I think you are right about the overseas creditors trying to get their money back again
ReplyDeleteThat would possibly include the company from Singapore who paid him a deposit for Sculptura Ardmore only to cancel the order when he couldn't even deliver the prototypes within a year
Trango were left $75k out of pocket through Jollys deception and would like to have another go at him
I hope Jolly doesnt do a runner overseas to escape any more legal action as he has indicated in the past that he wanted to live in the Sth of France He would certainly have the money tucked away somewhere
Montage / Vollay factory advertised for sale or lease:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.realcommercial.com.au/property-industrial+warehouse-nsw-seven+hills-500790719
Jolly's merc still parked out front and lots of aluminium being moved around.
The property was listed for sale/lease on 8 July - the day before the creditors' meeting which decided to wind montage up. Interesting timing.
ReplyDeleteJolly won't be going anywhere, my source tells me he's under constant surveillance, as soon as he looks to be skipping the country, he'll be nabbed in one form or another (If you get my meaning) I'm told there are people waiting for him in every State where there is an international Airport. Rest assured - He won't be leaving the country. I hope he's reading this and puts it to the test. Really I do.
ReplyDeleteAlready contacted Ferdinand in Honghong. Asked him for a letter to couple politicians (supplied names and emails) and to government agancies. Hopefully he will respond.
ReplyDeleteIs there anyone who could think about something illegal about Montage/Vollay or directors?
Let bring it now. Maybe I missed something. We have to make sure that ALL Jollys companies are closed and owners are pay back all stolen money.
ATO is aware about MPJ INVESTEMENTS trying to unload assets. So ASIC. So Administrator.
I SAID NOWHERE TO HIDE, NOWHERE TO RUN.
ASIC & ATO should check flow of funds to family members. Jolly daughters (Megan White & Kimberley Patten [Paton]) are on the payroll, but do not work at Montage/Vollay. Possibly Jolly is funnelling funds through other family members like Trent and Peter Jolly (Michael Jolly's father in Adelaide). The supposed Montage debt of around $2M to Jillian Jolly is most likely fictitious with funds simply being lent by Jill Jolly to Montage and channelled back into secret accounts. Thus Jolly can maintain an apparent debt to his wife that gives her power to over-ride genuine creditors. Why else does Jolly have his daughters on the payroll? To manipulate the situation when under administration.
ReplyDeleteI have also contacted Ferdinand from Pure Shutters in Hong Kong and he has a contact here look on his website www.pureshutters.com
ReplyDeleteHe has a range of shutters which are a better design than Jollys and he can deliver to Sydney on around 8 weeks sometimes sooner
Shutters can also be fabricated locally to ease lead times
Other products available including a motorised roofing system which is so much better than Jollys.
Contact him directly He sounds like a good guy who has a good product which he can and will deliver.I know one company who he has supplied and they have had no issues whatsoever Remember he has also been burnt big time by Jolly so needs our support
You think to report to Police? If I be in your shoes I might consider reporting to ASIC. Administrator is an option. Did you thought about telling Fair Trading? I am more that sure that members of parliament would have pity on you. Try. Call 2GB. You make Ray day. Take them to CTTT. Senior commission NSW Police officer went through this blog, but always left Federal Police option. Call ATO hotline. I know. CRIME STOPPERS the best. Call and dob yourself.
ReplyDeleteWhy don't you do right think and report yourself and family straight to warden at Long Bay? Save our money? You a burden to taxpayers.Other option. You could insure yourself and then make a claim. You know best how works.
Is our actions to painful? You should think before you start to rob us.Cheat. Lie.
How factory sale going? It is big worry. Where will be new head office for taking deposits and deception?
Have you already booked cells? Where?
You cheated to mamy for to long,
PAYTIME NOW, MARK, MICHAEL,JILL
Mr Jolly
ReplyDeleteYou are pathetic
Did you burst into tears and cry when you reported this to the Police?
You are a hypocrite.You have harrassed , menaced and offended every person you have come into contact with and this will all come out very soon
Did you tell the police how many federal laws you may have broken ?
Did you tell them how many times you may have broken consumer law?
Did you tell them you are possibly under investigation by numerous Government bodies for multiple offences?
You reap what you sow
What is being said on this blog is all about peoples experiences in dealing with you, Montage Group and Vollay Systems.Not one good word to say by anyone here
People in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones so dont go running to the law when it suits you when in fact you may have done much worse to others over a number of years
Time will tell what happens next
I can't wait to find out
I love to tell all interested parties that it is confirmed that ALL statuatory bodies in Australia are progressing in investigation of Jollys and his companies.
ReplyDeleteIt cannot be said when we see results, but optimistically, I say within two months we should know something.
Most will be privallege information and we might not be informed. We would hope that lots of creditors will be contacted as is almost certain that deposits were taken while insolvent.
One big question is if money will be found, so Administrator could distribute between us.
Second question. Lots of people would add more money to see those crooks in jail. Will that happen?
Lets hope.
I must add that to forces were strenthen by union which is observing what will happen.
On subject of factory sale.
Normally factory like Jollys will fetch about 700k. This one because is on land of other entity, and factory have to be retuned to land owners is not even worth asking price. Person in business will say that factory, with every day, got diminishing value.
Anyone on blog maybe knows more about Jollys assets? If, please share with us. We might put this information to good use.
Lots of ex employee of Montage contacted me about unpaid superannuation levy by Mr Jollys.
ReplyDeleteMy accountant is ex ATO and said best to contact ATO on phone nr 131020.
From that point ATO leads conversation, but you have to have some paperwork as an evidence and supply some facts.
I know at least two ex employee got already case of unpaid super with ATO so Jollys gang is well known to ATO in every aspect.
Unpaid super, unpaid taxes, unpaid GST, not lodging BAS, not supplying documentation.
Once you ring ATO your case become one more of Montage investigation.
I was present at conference where guy from ATO on telephone link was pointing directors of Montage, Jollys, as very bad guys, not complying ,saying that ATO is looking at Jollys trio activities for a long time.
Obviously they tried to cheat ATO like they did to anyone who crossed they path.
Once I asked on this blog for someone who happy with Jolly and his work to come forward.
NO ONE answered that call. Shows you how bad.
If you think you were cheated, think that Jollys cheated few law firm and even one barrister. At least they on long list of creditors.
On another note.
Anyone like to buy shutters, 3 elements, made of second hand materials, not to specs, recoated from few different colours, dented, scratched as structural engineer ordered to pull down.
They still hanging on wall at Voyager and anyone welcome to see this most shitty job according to few in shutters business.
That is monument of cheating Jollys left me with.
Not wonder I cannot wait when all institutions investigating Montage will put directors in front of Judge.
Another Client was cheated again by Michael Jolly ,This time using Vollay company . Got 30K deposit and nothing happened .Its another Non Retractable system (NRV) . Same old story of taking deposit and no intention of supplying .Tenants moving in soon and no NRV done yet .
ReplyDeleteVollay , Michael Jolly, Trent Jolly, Jillian Jolly - Menace to society. Very evil . Not human at all!
This has been going on for years. That customer should go straight to Fair Trading and lodge a complaint. He will recover his money without the expense of lawyers.
ReplyDeleteHow many of Jolly’s installation customers have been left with charges for scaffolding or scissor lifts because Jolly failed to deliver by the agreed date and the builder’s scaffold had been dismantled. Many.
And how often was Jolly willing to bear even part of the cost for his own lack of organisation. Almost never.
How many such customers have been faced with builders refusing or delaying payment to penalise an installer for late delivery – late delivery because of Michael Jolly’s inability to operate his company. Many.
And the Jolly’s just don’t care so long as they have taken someone’s money. Are the Jolly’s just psychopaths?
The Jolly’s have been lax in keeping up with superannuation payments for years and have been reported to the ATO on numerous occasions. The fact that the ATO failed to impose penalties served only to encourage them to go on flouting the law.
On the matter of Montage going into administration – this was deliberate and planned. They were already trading under Vollay Contracts etc. so that when the shit hit the fan, as it was certain to do, they would write off about 95% of their debts. Jolly continued taking substantial deposits, and reportedly went on a spending spree in the run up to go into administration.
I believe that Montage has been insolvent for years with suppliers kept on a drip feed. Montage became insolvent because the Jolly’s have no idea of how to run a company and so, once insolvent, they had no possibility of trading out of difficulties. This should become apparent to those doing the investigations.
Vollay must also be in the shit now
ReplyDeleteHe cant even pay to get any extrusion powder coated and asks his customers to pay the powder coater directly so that they can get their product
He must be trading insolvent There is no other explanation No company can rely on customers deposits to keep them afloat and operating
Same old story as Montage so it wont be long before one of his customers gets a judgement against him and he rolls over again
The way he operates is out and out deception but it is now catching up with him
If you want to contact the Government agencies listed below please quote these reference numbers
ASIC reference number 28980/13
ATO reference number 1012504555855
good luck
As Department of Fair Trading NSW conducting investigation into Montage/ Vollay anyone with valid issues please contact Mr Brown in Fair Trading.
ReplyDeleteFair Trading is establishing if installations done by Montage carry any warranty as Montage never was, never is, licenced to carry this kind of work.
Investigation into insurance claims made by Montage are well advanced and in progress.
Anyone having any more informations or documentation please contact Ted on 0418 635399.
Administrator is still working on Montage liquidation.
So ASIC.
Any issues with ATO or unpaid super please raise now with ATO as they aware of problems there and they are one of creditors.
I would like all domestic customers who have had product supplied or supplied and installed by either Montage or Vollay or Sandy de Luca to contact Peter Black at Fair Trading on 9895 0822
ReplyDeleteWhether you are satisfied with the end result or not the warranty may not be valid if they are unlicenced so I would urge you to contact Peter ASAP
Here is an interesting piece of information regarding employees Superannuation. Somewhere between the transition of Montage to Volley, there is a period of time that Jolly thinks his employees never were actually employed by him. According to ATO documents there is one quarter period of superannuation payment cycle that shows Montage was no longer trading before Volley started trading, therefor Employees were not entitled to Superannuation.
ReplyDeleteATO requires hard evidence that employees were still actually employees during this transition. (Payslips)
Funny thing about this - All of my slips show I was still gainfully employed by the "No longer Montage Group" which kind of proves he was trading under a company name that was no longer a company. Another interesting fact. I only ever signed one Tax declaration form, and that was the day I started working for "Montage"
The ATO informs me that when Volley was the operating company all employees had to sign a new Tax Declaration for that company.
Well - I never signed one, and the reports from other employees I've spoken to, say they never signed one either.
So just who signed these Tax Declaration forms ???
When were they signed? Which might account for the quarterly gap in Superannuation payments that should be due to all employees.
This to me is fraud IN the highest degree.
Trading while insolvent.
Fraud with signing government documents on behalf of employees for Tax evasion and Superannuation purposes. (We are talking about 3 Months worth of unpaid Tax and Superannuation for each employee)
How many years behind bars do you get for that shit Mr Jolly.
The evidence is there, it's just a matter of time before it's all presented before you by ATO investigators.
Interesting! Jolly cannot legally operate without Workers Compensation Insurance for his employees. If his staff were not his employees for some purposes, but were his employees for other purposes, then I wonder what he did with Workers Compensation Insurance. He was using GIO who had probably ramped up the premiums following complaints from a few past employees – unlikely any other insurance company would want him, but GIO would keep going in the hope of recouping their losses. Are Jolly’s employees insured? Are they insured as employees of Montage, Vollay, MPJ Investments or some other entity. Looks like he’s caught in a tangle of intriguing contradictions created by his successive attempts to cover his past deceits. He has tried to be just too tricky.
DeleteContact Workcover 131 050 and ask them to find out who Jolly has his Workers' Comp. insurance with, which company you are really employed by and are you properly covered in the case of injury or other work-related event such a work-place abuse.
DeleteWorkcover will be very discreet. Jolly is well known to Workcover over previous illegal behaviour.
Don't waste any time WORKCOVER 131 050
TO EMPLOYEES OF MONTAGE, VOLLAY OR OTHER COMPANIES OPERATED BY MICHAEL JOLLY & JILL JOLLY
ReplyDeleteDuring proceedings associated with external administration of Montage Pty Ltd, company employees, as creditors, had the right to vote on matters related to whether Montage would be liquidated or be allowed to continue trading.
Reports emerged that Michael Jolly had pressured his employees to vote as he directed and that those who did not comply would face dismissal.
Employees should understand that if they are treated unfairly, subjected to abuse in the workplace, or dismissed without proper procedure or without good cause, or pressured to make statements that are not truthful, they should report the matter to Workcover.
If you are dismissed or feel that you are being abused or unfairly pressured or bullied, Workcover will issue you with a complaint number which will then be reported to Jolly’s insurer (Workers Compensation Insurance).
The insurance company will investigate and make its decision. If you have a valid complaint you will be supported on the same income that you received while working for Jolly until you find a new job – even if that takes months. Jolly’s insurer will assist you in finding alternative work. The insurance company will cover your legal expenses. In the end Jolly has to pay.
Gather any supporting documentation that you can and names of supporting witnesses. Don’t take it lightly – you will need to make statements and be prepared for counter-claims to be made by Jolly.
If several people have the same complaint, act as a group and support one another. Protect yourselves. Don’t tolerate abuse. Don’t be bullied.
If you have a good case, you will most likely win. Michael Jolly has lost such cases before. He has a documented history of abusive behaviour toward his employees.
WORKCOVER Telephone 131 050
I cannot belive that this company is still trading Business must be tough for them with all the publicity
ReplyDeleteSurely the authorities have enough info on Jolly to shut him down for good
Where are the laws protecting consumers from companies like this ??
Whatever you do DO NOT DEAL WITH MICHAEL JOLLY OR VOLLAY
YOU WILL GET BURNT
We living in damm country, run by lawyers, where crooks got more rights than honest, hardworking people.
ReplyDeleteIn no other country that family will walk on streets, their business will be history long time ago.
Are we coming back to convict era?
What got to happen for government to close montage/Vollay operation and got stack into directors???????
Do they still stealing money?
In Australia, legislation appears to be drafted deliberately to be inconcise, and to contain many ‘loopholes’. Added to this, legislation is written in antiquated ‘legalese’ language that reads like nonsense to normal people. This ensures that the courts are kept busy interpreting the law and hoards of legal functionaries (solicitors, lawyers, barristers etc.) are able to make masses of money trotting people through the system, wasting time and money and too frequently arriving at what appear to be inappropriate outcomes.
ReplyDeleteIf the legislation was written clearly and precisely in correct modern English, there would be little for the legal profession to do. It’s seems to be a closed shop, operated to too great a degree for purposes of self-interest.
Certainly there are numerous checks and balances in the system which are intended to avert unsatisfactory or inappropriate outcomes, but these sometimes seem to be counter-productive.
That Jolly et al have, for years, been able to disregard the law with virtual impunity is just astounding. How could it give anyone confidence in the legal system or the various government bodies that have the authority to take action against him.
The ad for the Vollay factory has changed and now says:
ReplyDelete• Recently Leased on a new 3 Year Lease
• Significant Bond - Excellent Tenant
Surely Jolly is not the "excellent tenant". Does anybody know who it is?
Mr Jolly
ReplyDeletejust to let you know that well over 100 people are reading this blog everyday so maybe that is why your credit rating is zip and you have no orders
Karma
PS As you can see from the 2 posts above we are onto you and your tricks
"Signifiant bond Excellent tenant" This cant possibly be you can it??